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Earlier than you learn the remaining…. When you’re right here, you in all probability are enthusiastic about tube testers in some sort of a approach. Identical as me!

I bear in mind I threw away a shoe field stuffed with used ECC81, many Mullard and Philips, utilizing a faulty tester (in 1988) they usually examined all within the ‘?’ vary. I did not have a lot information about tube testers. I believed an outdated tube tester is like an outdated multi meter. Not very correct, however when it really works it’s in all probability okay. Later I discovered the outdated tester was indicating too low vaue for all tubes, and maybe these tubes had been all tremendous. Extra later, I discovered that nearly any outdated tube tester has a big potential for indicating full nonsense outcomes. It’s superb how utterly improper they’ll learn. You might not discover, and use it 20 years like that, and really feel nice about it. That is as a result of you haven’t any reference. A voltmeter you’ll be able to plug into the mains, or take a look at a battery with it, and you realize if it’s good. With a tube tester what’s going to you do? You stick unknown tubes in it, and when some are good, and a few are unhealthy, it provides satisfaction. Sorry for a few of the essential writing right here, relating to shopping for tube tester on Ebay. Additionally for me, there’s typically no various for having to purchase there. So I desire to put in writing about issues as they’re, and in some circumstances it’s useful for all of us, to have good understanding of the (actual) habits at Ebay. My opinion is, Ebay is probably the most unreliable shopping for place to purchase a tube tester. This web page has grown a lot bigger as anticipated. Please word this: This web site is a business one, that means I stay from it. I perceive you in all probability have many questions, since you’re studying this textual content for some purpose. Nonetheless I have to deal with orders first, so I can’t reply emails asking for free technical help. Not a lot as a result of most individuals do not need to pay for info, I perceive that. It’s simply I do not HAVE the time to deal with this for you. So for any questions on a damaged tester you obtain on Ebay, or some place else, simply put up it on the Jacmusic tube tester discussion board. When I’ve time, I could even reply it myself maybe, and like that the knowledge does not get misplaced and is useful to all of us.

TUBE TESTER FORUM
For questions of restore a damaged tube tester, we advise to make use of the Tube Testers Discussion board

On these pages that comply with now, you’ll be able to examine typical power and weak spot of some tube testers. In case you determine to calibrate your tube tester, that’s often the ONLY GOOD factor to do. Be at liberty to ask some advise about it, however please be a gentleman, solely ask issues you want to know prior to purchasing the calibration tubes, you probably have the intention certainly to purchase these. And should you actually do, you’ll be able to simply as nicely ask afterwards. So we attempt to do it in that order 😉

What tube tester do you want?

I get this query many instances by electronic mail! Folks have understood from this text, Ebay is just not an excellent place to purchase a tube tester, however they need purchase a tester anyway. So the concept is usually to purchase a brand new made tester, and I’m requested for recommendation. The query is then usually like this: I’ve determined for an E-tracer or an Amplitrex, is it an excellent tester? The reply to this query might be, these aren’t advisable for you, as a result of you want to know what’s your ‘should’ and what’s your ‘need’.

Roughly testers go into three classes: Parametric testers, Curve tracers, and High quality Testers, so simple as that. It is necessary prime set your ‘should’ and ‘need’ accordingly. Not all the time probably the most “correct” take a look at knowledge is best. It’s so “fascinating” to have a curve tracer, however once you purchase tubes for high quality, that means a variety from ‘weak’ to ‘sturdy’, and also you need learn that from the tube curves, you are able to do greater than I can do. When tube curves look optically unhealthy, it’s far too late. A lot earlier than that, soem higher methods to measure would have advised you so. Tube curves are for developing the working level, throughout amplifier design. A parametric tester is one thing for individuals who know so much about tubes, as a result of parameter by itself are ineffective. Sure they’re, as a result of they solely make sense in relation to one another. So folks find yourself with the usual working level, utilizing this as final take a look at for random tubes, having to guessing the place the bounds are. Take 10% or no matter they “really feel” is good. In order that they have a exact paramtric tester, after which have to guess if the outcomes are good or unhealthy. This brings us to the subsequent categorie: High quality testers. That’s what most 0users have to know, however purchase a parametric tester or a curve tracer as an alternative. A superb high quality tester will neither provide you with tube parameters, or a curve chart. It simply tells you: Unhealthy-?-Good. Totally on a red-green scale, or a scale with numbers. Since you’ve little choices to test the end result, you shouldn’t belief a low value High quality tester. The nice ones have an excellent repuatation, they’re by no means low-cost, and they’re heavy, and with a number of take a look at potentialities. the top they’ve their primary use for tube matching. I believe it’s not so fascinating to match unhealthy high quality tubes to one another properly.

Some testers can do two issues on the identical time, liek mix a parametric take a look at with a top quality take a look at. Like AVO mk2 and better are well-known for that, but in addition L3-3 can try this, and some others. More often than not although, testers are parametric testers solely, or High quality testers solely.

New made testers. I’m a bit reluctant right here. Persons are usually impressed by the number of electrical assessments, these new made testers can do, like tube curves, get printed take a look at knowledge, and the phantasm of precision, when digital outcomes are offered with many digits. If that is what you need to have, so to say for enjoyable or interest, or technical causes, like when you’ve an audio lab, or a tube lab, these are the merchandise you want.

Parametric testers are preferrred for tube matching, BUT that may solely work when you realize precisely how that is performed your self. The testers itself usually solely touches the topic. Don’t assume that is going to present significant outcomes rapidly, from studying by doing. That may relatively take you a very long time, and you’ll make errors to start with, reminiscent of being an over-critical matching professor, or not perceive what burn in does to the tubes and to the matching. I understand folks igonore this textual content in all probability, but it surely’s the reality.

So the selection cones down to what’s your ‘should’. The principally requested query is: How good is a used tube, and what is the lifetime left in it? It’s so bizarre, however all new made tubes testers keep away from this reply, however provide you with all sort of knowledge which can result in this reply, however there is no such thing as a steerage for that. Furthermore, and I have to say this very clearly, parametric outcomes aren’t preferrred to seek out out remaining tube life. That is relatively the area of the High quality Testers, they aren’t made with out purpose.

Classic testers seldom current parametric info to the operator. But in the long run they provide you with the reply to your query. They current on an excellent/unhealthy scale the situation of the tube. After some expertise with that tester, you’ll perceive what ‘85%’ means to you for this specific tester and this specific tube. A couple of uncommon High quality Testers will may current parametric info, together with the standard share.

So preserve aside for your self clearly what’s your the ‘should’ and what’s the ‘need’: Curves, parameters, or a High quality take a look at.

Good high quality testers are: Many of the Hickoks, AVO Mk2, Mk3, Mk4. Funke W18, W19. (very incomplete checklist! ). The ineffective ones, are no actual assist to you. So the 150…300 Euro these go for, is a waste of cash.

Worth: When this is a matter to you, a classic tester all the time retains is worth as a result of the tuen market grows, anf new made testers usually keep away from high quality testing.

Why to make use of a classic tube tester?

This repeats a few of the above subject, in additional element. Classic testers provide capabilities new made digital testers do not have. Digital testers counsel precision. Nevertheless, that could be very in all probability not the case, and never what the common consumer wants. Most individuals in actuality solely have to know: Is the tube nonetheless good, and the way lengthy will it nonetheless final? Fashionable testers just like the AT1000 give no reply to that in any respect. Even so the AT1000 is a really complicated tester, and makes many errors. So tremendous, you realize the plate present is for example 81.5%, however 81.5 of what? Wel…. of 100% after all. However was that the query you had? Will you reject this tube, as a result of 81.5 is just not 100? You and the digital tube tester make a nasty crew, if neither of you do not know when a tube is unhealthy or not, and at the very least the AT1000 doesn’t understand it. Put the identical tube on a Funke W19, and it says. ’20’. Good begins at ’12’. Look! Now that’s clear. Put the identical tube on a Hickok and it’ll come very far into inexperienced. Wow…. and also you had been so upset about ‘81.5% of 100%’ because the AT1000 advised you. Such experiences I made many. And even the AT1000 will say the tube is at 100%, so you’re glad. You place in an amplifier and after 10 hours the audio system say: ‘CRAX&%&%$’. Effectively, you higher ought to have handed it by the Hickok or AVO leakage take a look at, that will have noticed that leaky electrode, which the AT1000 can’t take a look at for. Or, you dig up some radio tubes from the 1940’s and the brand new made tester -OF COURSE- does not have the sockets for it. Or the settings are lacking, which you’ll be able to -OF COURSE- make your self, however is that what you needed? So all in the long run, you will need to see of a classic tester as a concentrated quantity of expertise, construct by these outdated tube guys, and also you’re shopping for this expertise and luxury, together with the outdated tester. Sorry for saying this, however the lack of expertise with the AT1000 software program is painful. So if Hickok discovered precisely this or that setting to reject a 6SN7, you’ll be able to by no means substitute that by a plate present measurement, not even testing the tube for shorts. I’ve discovered to belief a take a look at end result from a classic tester which is an efficient situation, greater than what digital testers inform me. I’ve a totally restored Hickok 750. Although the scale a big, I find it irresistible. When this tester says: ‘Unhealthy tube’, nicely than that is what it’s. For the time being I see many individuals returning to these good outdated analog tube testers, and I can perceive it.

One other evaluate is with the uTrace or Etracer curve tracer. Identical state of affairs right here. In opposite to the AT1000, the software program of uTrace and E-tracer is constructed with a number of delight, and frequently up to date. These little testers can accomplish that a lot. Nevertheless, additionally right here, it’s a must to choose for your self should you just like the take a look at outcomes or not. The query is, are you actually able to that. There is no such thing as a assist for the consumer, saying if the tube is sweet or not. So I see usually folks inventing self-made guidelines, for when a tube have to be changed. Such guidelines are principally improper. After all they don’t have any different possibility, however that does not make the state of affairs any higher. That’s as a result of the digital testers do not assist hem saying if the tubes have to be changed or not. To my opinion, such individuals are higher off utilizing a very tremendous, classic tube tester.

So I desire to check a tube with an expert tester, from the interval when these tubes had been in every day use. These had been made simply to say how good the tubes nonetheless are, and for me that’s usually the primary query. If the tube continues to be ‘tremendous’ by such a tube tester, then transconductance and so forth fits regular functions. For very outdated tubes just like the 45, or outdated rectifiers, I desire an outdated (however good) tester like for example the Hickok I-177. It provides me each ‘Gm’, and ‘High quality’. Whereas the later mannequin TV7, provides solely ‘High quality’. Very excessive acquire tubes like ECC83 shouldn’t be examined on an I-177. Although official settings had been created later, the enter sign to this tube is simply too excessive. Such excessive acquire tubes did not exist on the I-177 was designed. Or, the AVO Mk1…Mk4 are nor fitted to tubes with very low plate impedance just like the 6080, says the AVO valve handbook. So you shouldn’t take a look at tubes on a tester, it was not meant for, although it’s not not possible.


 

1) Maybe that is one of the best place to promote our calibration tube set.


Some attainable
Calibration tubes


Leakage Software

Reference Card

TUBE TESTER CALIBRATION TUBES.

Order Nr: 624-014-55
See price list (appr. line 639)

What you obtain:

  1. Information to tube tester restore and calibration. 45 pages in coloration. Binder like a small ebook, with many hints, coloration photos and recommendations on tube tester calibration. This isn’t out there wherever within the web. We see somebody promoting the same merchandise on Ebay, on DVD for a loopy costs. This materials is partially copied from our web site. You get it without cost with the calibration tubes. Additionally on the market as a ebook solely.
  2. Take a look at Tube1: RCA USA NOS 6L6 Metal can. Authentic Purple field
  3. Take a look at Tube2: Russian NOS 6SN7, Authentic field, or white field
  4. Take a look at Tube3: Russian NOS 6SL7, Authentic field, or white field
  5. Take a look at Tube4: Russian SQ NOS 6L6 with 10% heater voltage tolerance, Authentic blue field.
  6. Leakage take a look at instrument. directions on use it, is within the handbook
  7. Tube curves, coloration printed, to test your tester at any level you want
  8. Fast overview of all take a look at knowledge of these tubes on a plastified card.
  9. Free electronic mail help about use these tubes.
  10. When it’s completed, later, we add a free DVD, with all tube tester manuals, as we have now on file now (not out there but)

6SL7, 6SN7 and 6L6 RCA are examined on a variety of good tube testers, and documented outcomes. 6L6 Russian is complimentary, this tube is to copy the 6L6 RCA. (Directions included). So the Russian 6L6 has no take a look at knowledge with it, and the RCA 6L6 is totally examined on all testers.

Information to tube tester restore and calibration.

45 Pages coloration printed, in binder.

Read some part of it here.

Order quantity:
624-017-37

Value:
See price list

The usage of calibration tubes.

You’ll be able to say at each AC Tester, you merely want such a tube for calibration. There is no such thing as a different approach as to take a recognized tube, and set the tester’s studying for that worth. Even so, from Hickok you may even purchase them, however that’s way back. Even so should you would discover a type of on a flee market, it’s undecided if has it is worth after 50 years. At Hickok they used the RCA Metal tube 6L6 for this. At AVO they advocate smaller tubes, reminiscent of ECC82 or 6SN7. Additionally for any DC tester they’re a protected methods to confirm the tester with a variety of tubes, and test at a number of working factors. Additionally vital it to test the leakage perform of your tube tester, you want the leakage take a look at instrument. First the tester should be capable of detect leakage in a dependable and predictable approach. Then, if this perform is verified, it additionally proves the deck with the sockets is just not eaky, since any downside right here would false any take a look at end result.

The place are you now?

Most tube collectors have a tube tester, that was not serviced for 50 years. These testers which have serviceable elements inside, are prone to be off calibration in a horrible approach, it should not come as a shock. If the tester was saved in a basement or a storage for the final 30 years, the elements often endure from this very a lot. Capacitors have gone leaky and carbon resistors have inside cracks, and better resistance ensuing from this. This situation is the place most tube tester are in, specifically the Ebay ones. Nevertheless, most issues contained in the tester can be repaired professionally so long as the essential materials is good. With this I imply the meter, the transformer, and wiring. With an unknown situation tester comes first VERIFICATION, which implies you test a tubes with recognized values, and the tester ought to reproduce this inside it is specified tolerance. Then, usually you discover bigger deviation than that, and you are able to do a calibration try. This implies you calibrate the tester with a recognized tube. After this, another varieties of recognized tubes also needs to point out accurately, which isn’t essentially the case. Should you calibrate the tester for a 6L6, subsequent you want to attempt if it really works nicely with a know 6SN7, after which 6922. So that is what the calibration tubes are for.

Suppose you discover out then, your tester has some deviation even after calibration, you’ll be able to nonetheless determine if you wish to preserve it, or restore it.

the tube calibration set we promote, has following contents:

  1. A supreme high quality METAL CAN 6L6, NOS RCA. It was precisely the sort of tube, that was on the market by Hickok, way back. This tube you must use solely brief, to stop burn in, and so it is going to maintain it is right knowledge all the time. This tube is measured below actual specs, on 4 totally different tube testers, all values you get printed on paper. The typical is calculated, and printed on the tube. That is the reference tube of the calibration set.
  2. A supreme High quality Russian 6L6, of a sort made for devices. (Page1Page2). From this tube, you make a reproduction of your reference tube. It’s defined within the calibration handbook how to do that. This tube you should utilize for so long as you need, and easily re-calibrate it your self on occasion, utilizing the RCA METAL CAN reference tube. Then put the RCA tube to relaxation once more.
  3. A Russian 6SN7 additionally meant for devices
  4. A USA 6922 with army specification. The 6SN7 and 6922 are double triodes, so we have now a complete of 5 tube methods which might be precisely measured, on 4 totally different tube testers, in numerous methods. The tube testers used for this are one of the best we have now, and a few are described beneath right here within the restoration reviews. The outcomes we measure, should repeat on any good tube tester of the identical type. As an illustration if the 6L6 you get, has a transconductance of 5700 on a Hickok, then your Hickok should point out simply this. Deviation max 5%. Additionally within the case your tester reads 5400 ‘solely’ you realize now, it tends to point decrease than regular, and you may work round properly with that.
  5. A simulator for numerous sort of leakage belongs to this tube set. That is has recognized resistors inside. Your tube tester should establish this accurately as leaky or shorted tubes. The values are chosen such that the neon lamp of your tester will proven three situations: ‘simply on’, ‘simply off’ and ‘burn very shiny’. It’s important to test for all three situations. (more information about this product here) Bear in mind heater to cathode leakage is the #1 explanation for tube hum for tubes that take a look at ‘good’ for the remainder of it. So that you positive need the tester to be dependable on this level.
  6. Particular person tube curves of the Metal can RCA 6L6, the 6SN7 and t he 6922. So you’ll be able to test your tester at any working level you want, any tube you want, and from the curves even derive the transconductance at a random working level by this method: Gm= (Ua1-Ua2) / (Ia2-Ia1)
  7. Fast overview of all take a look at knowledge of these tubes, on a plastified card.
  8. A 17 web page handbook with an outline and a few hints use the supplies, and datasheets and so forth. This lets you test the tube tester at any random working level you select.

—> Also you should click here if you want to calibrate your tube tester <—

Buyer suggestions from Sweden, for the calibrated tube set (Dec 2009):

Hello Jac,

Now i may confirm with the 6P3C (6L6) and the worth was
:
Ia 75 and S 5.7 I bought

Ia 74 and S
5.8 That is AMAZING.
Additionally checked the Anode voltage by A1 and floor when testing the 6922, i attempt to put in on 90V and on my RMS multi meter it was 89,7..!! So I am very glad. THX to i i bought my AVO mk4 for the L3-3. I’ll all the time THANK u for that!!! Mine was calibrated in Ukraine,
and i attempted so exhausting to
get
instruction however i quit attributable to language circumstances.

MERRY CHRISTMAS und Auf Wiedersehen!
Matts

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2) FOR SALE ITEMS


TUBE TESTERS FOR SALE

I’m promoting off some testers from my assortment to free some house. As soon as these are gone, I’ll haven’t others on the market. Please don’t electronic mail that you’ve got seen one cheaper someplace on Ebay, then you will need to purchase that one. On the market right here aren’t the most cost effective testers, however excellent testers with all repairs and changes performed. Really with Ebay costs going loopy, with out logical purpose, it can be that it’s a must to pay extra at Ebay for a tester bought ‘as is’ as for an excellent one right here. On Ebay, with tuber testers relation between worth and high quality is random. Value is decided by the very best bidder entering into this ‘I should have it’ irrational mode, and by the optical look. Not by {the electrical} situation of the tester. As an illustration I’ve been wanting over 12 years to purchase a SOFIA. Then again I see ineffective tube checkers promote for 300 Euro, which is 250 Euro an excessive amount of. (like this one here)

3) The right way to take a look at tubes, on numerous testers

Who did not learn this earlier than on Ebay:

These tubes all take a look at “GOOD”
on my TC1 Tester.

Fantastic, that makes them costlier. Proper?
Effectively, it is higher than nothing, however that is about it. As a result of, what I personally wish to know for HiFi, is that this:

  1. What lifetime is left within the tube?

  2. How shut are they to the unique manufacturing facility knowledge?

  3. What about good Vacuum, good isolation?

Preserve aside the classes of the tubes to check. These are:

  1. Rectifiers. These are typically exhausting to check, at any tester which won’t put the tube below FULL load. There is no such thing as a substitute for FULL LOAD, no exceptions, neglect the patented trick circuits. So full load is for example 250mA for a 5U4G tube. It has to present this DC output present with out loosing an excessive amount of voltage, nothing extra and nothing much less.
  2. Small sign tubes. Right here the query is: Is the bias present right? Solely then it is going to bias right within the amplifier, and solely then it can provide the proper amplification at little distortion. One other approach is to check the transconductance, which is a fairly protected method to say one thing in regards to the use situation. There’s one harmful assumption, that’s this: The tube was biasing good when new, and transconductance was good when new. So now once you take a look at the tube, and transconductance is sweet, THEN bias is assumed to be good additionally. (that is an assumption solely, and won’t be true in all circumstances). So a 100% dependable take a look at provides bias present at normal take a look at situations, and transconductance at these situations. Observe, many tube testers use house brew take a look at situations, like Hickok. That is works in most case, however is just not preferrred.
  3. Energy sign Pentodes. They have to be capable of draw full plate present, and in any other case can’t provide full output energy. So it’s a must to TEST these AT full plate present, and nothing else. Set the plate 100V above the grid, so that you take a look at them fairly unbiased of the plate voltage drop which you get.
  4. Energy sign Triodes. These are the toughest to check. They’ve very low impedance, which conflicts with the impedance of the tester. Hickok acknowledges this by leaving out the 300B from most roll charts. Okay, that is sincere.

The issue comes, once you need to know the standard of a used tube. There was by no means a basic methodology revealed for this by any tube producer.

This was all the time left as much as producers of tube testers. So… it means: Many tube testers, many strategies.


Listed here are some methods to check a tube

1) Plug in a model new tube in your amplifier, and see if the perform improves.

This end result cannot be denied!
This methodology was utilized by many service technicians!

The tube producers had particular circumstances for that for service man, with a group of recent tubes, one in every of every.
If in case you have no different approach, take this fashion! It’s a excellent one.

2) Measuring the DC plate present is an efficient factor as a result of it’s real looking, and it is exhausting for the tube.
That is no job for a low value, or additionally not for a ‘patented’ tester. There’s nothing to patent on a standard, straight ahead DC parametric tester, and that is the ONLY 100% protected approach for energy tubes. So as soon as the tester has patents in it … I get this ‘no no’ feeling.

As an illustration the ECC801S / 6201
is meant to present 10mA at 250Volt plate, and the precise grid voltages for this tube. It’s ‘good’ when not increased than 14mA and never decrease than 7mA.

That is from the unique Telefunken datasheet (might be discovered
on the tech-corner of this site).

The tip-of-life is beneath 6mA, or when the unique worth it had when it was new, has misplaced 40%.

Now that could be a very clear specification 🙂 So after all THIS is what you prefer to confirm, and the very second the tester has a patent, it means it’s NOT testing this fashion. I do know if no testers which might be an exceptions to this. So, additionally not AVO as a result of they’re patented too. The patent means they measure in ‘intelligent’ approach, and that’s simply not the conventional approach.

The GE datasheet of the KT66 merely says beneath what present the tube is unhealthy.

Sadly these are the great exceptions, and most tube producers prevented that query like monkey plague.When measuring actual DC plate present, you want very exact and heavy electronics, these tube testers are costly, and might have calibration or periodically verification of the tester. Within the devices world the definition about calibration and verification is a reversed one.

Please take good word of this. It means when specified NOTHING, the devices wants yearly calibration. If it says it wants a calibration each 5 years, then this counts as an alternative. So no info = Yearly calibration. This the best way the world of devices is outlined. So in case your tube tester is from 1965, nothing is written about calibration within the handbook, and it was by no means checked ever since, FORGET the outcomes. It missed the calibration yearly ever since 1966. Verification is a course of which have to be particularly ALLOWED by the instruction handbook. So when not talked about, it’s no good method to take a look at this tester. Verification means you evaluate the end result to a know tube, and when okay, the tester is okay. VERY FEW tube testers are so good they are often checked that approach. As an illustration Funke W19 might be checked that approach.

When is a tube good or unhealthy?

Usually it may be mentioned a tube is unhealthy when the unique plate present is beneath 70% of the preliminary worth for European tubes, and beneath 60% for USA tubes. So this isn’t 60% from the datasheet 100% worth, however 60% from the preliminary worth the tube had when it was new. The preliminary worth might have been decrease than the 100% worth or increased. Exhausting to say what the preliminary worth was after a few years. The most effective is all the time to mark it on the tube. In any other case you’ve a unclean methodology right here. To offer an instance: a tube has for example a 100% Worth of 100mA, by the datasheet Suppose the preliminary worth of YOUR tube was 70mA, when it was new. A European tube might drop all the way down to 70% of that, so 49mA and continues to be good. However…. suppose the preliminary worth was 140mA, then 70% of that’s 98mA. Under that the tube is worn out! So that you see how vital the preliminary worth is. At all times mark it on a brand new tube when you realize the worth. Has the preliminary worth bought misplaced, it’s a must to guess it.

 

3) Measure Transconductance. That is additionally good, as a result of you’ll be able to assemble good tube testers, with little electronics, and get helpful outcomes from that. These usually want no or little calibration, or simply verification.
So verification requires a calibrated tube, or one other tester of the identical type to match the outcomes. Nevertheless…. Testers that measure transconductance with little electronics aren’t by no means correct with ALL tubes, and that is per definition. So the Hickoks are usually calibrated with a 6L6, and you may totally belief the readings with any sort of related tube, like KT66 or KT88. Nevertheless, they aren’t able to testing tubes like 2A3 or 300B below actual life situations. These re 5000 micromho tubes, however on the Hickoks they provide solely 3000 micromho. In the event that they do on a Hickok, they’re tremendous. In actual life such tubes are unhealthy. So that you see my downside I’ve with any patented tester in anyway.

What is just not so good, with ‘Transconductance solely’ testers, is the unknown DC situations for the tube below take a look at. I’ve many Hickoks, and I discover {that a} ‘unhealthy” tube on by these testers is unquestionably unhealthy. These tester makes no errors with that. However the way it got here to that conclusion is unknown.
If you don’t want to know why a tube is unhealthy, however you’re solely if it wants a substitute, a Hickok is THE tester.
The best method to measure transconductance is with an AC (audio) Take a look at sign, and adjustable DC and unique datasheet settings to go together with it. Very only a few testers work like this.
Nearly each tester has i it is personal method to keep away from this. Motive is, as mentioned earlier than, costly electronics.

Some excellent testers nevertheless, are the upper class Hickok testers. These carry out an actual transconductance measurement, with a (recognized) Grid bias voltage, put a recognized AC sign on the grid, and from that measure the true AC plate present. Do be mindful ALL Hickoks work with AC wave shapes, that signify equal DC voltages, and this limits the precision, it doesn’t matter what you attempt or do. A greater methodology for this, is just not utilizing the mains voltage a sign, however the next frequency from an oscillator. Why is that? You might say you too can measure transconductance at 50 or 60Hz additionally? The reply is: No you can not measure that exactly on the mains frequency. Motive is, if the tube is buzzing (so it has a defect) the hum sign will probably be part of the plate sign. So such the tube will learn higher than it’s. The Russian L3-3 makes use of a 1400 Hz sine wave on the enter of the tube, and a 1400 Hz selective Voltmeter. That is in truth a really band go filter. So any sign coming from the mains, additionally harmonics of that, will probably be rejected. Additionally distortion and white noise of the tube is just not added to the end result, since solely 1400 Hz is measured, inside a couple of Hz solely. The second harmonics is 2800 Hz, and filtered out. This methodology is the one and solely true measurement of transconductance.

I discovered nearly no tester that may precisely measure the transconductance of bigger straight heated energy tubes like 2A3 or 300B. The testers I’ve, up to now the one one which produces an EXACT and totally right studying is the Russian L3-3. All different analog testers produce values which might be fairly imprecise. Additionally the good and extremely valued AVO Mk4 does not come close to. Properly they unnoticed the 300B of the AVO handbook. Additionally most Hickok roll chart keep away from mentioning the 300B. I discovered the rationale for that, is the too low plate resistance of these tubes. There’s a trace about that within the AVO handbook, however this trace is written in such a approach that you’ll not perceive the true that means of it. What they imply at AVO is: Overlook the outcomes for all tubes with low Rp. The Hickoks can also’t measure such tubes precisely should you ask me. These Hickok testers that may’t do it, additionally haven’t got the 300B within the handbook. Should you do take a look at it, by merely put it in 2A3 and set the filament to 5V, you get improper outcomes. So it is going to learn 3000 micro mho for a tube that has 5500. Additionally to your 2A3. However… who is aware of the true Gm of a 2A3 earlier than testing it …? So no person finds out, and no person will complain. The digital tube testers AT1000 ( we have now three) is good, however the L3-3 is best. Simply not as handy, and the AT1000 software program is a bit crude. The Sofia software program is extraordinarily delicate, like you’ll be able to level with the mouse at any place of the a curve, and also you get the three primary parameters in a single window, for that exact level. (G,. Rp and acquire). Effectively for me, the L3-3 beats any tube tester I’ve labored with.


4) Load Testers.
With this take a look at,
any tube is related as a diode, and it’s examined how a lot present the diode could make move by a load resistor.

These testers might be construct nearly with out electronics in any respect. So in a minimal model, inside you may see solely wires, one
resistor and a transformer. They’re
low-cost to make and
simple to make use of. With nothing inside, nothing can get faulty. Most radio and TV restore males had them. These can discover a unhealthy tube rapidly,
however say nothing about anticipated lifetime.
So it advised you what tube to exchange to get your TV working.
These do select unhealthy tubes. So if that is all you need to know, this type of tester what you want. Really a few of these CAN be actually good, however these are very only a few solely, and most of them are toys solely. Specifically the usually seen Lafayette, and clones known as like ‘TC-02’ and so forth, let go unhealthy tubes too simple.

Click on here to learn in regards to the accuracy of a Funke W19 tube tester.

SHORT OVERVIEW OF TUBE TESTER FEATURES IN EXEL FORMAT: -> CLICK HERE

“The purpose in query now could be whether or not the emission or transconductance take a look at is one of the best.
That is decided partly by the circuit by which the tube is for use, in case of an RF or IF amplifier tubes, the stage acquire is proportional to the transconductance; this the Gm take a look at is crucial.
In case if an output or energy rectifier tube, it have to be able to supplying giant quantities of present; right here the emission take a look at is crucial”

Superb Factors of Tube Testing. by William F. Burke, Consulting Editor, which appeared within the 1958 Take a look at Tools Guide.

6) About Tester accuracy and errors

There 4 methods to take care of errors 1 ) Forestall errors, by considering forward. 2) Study from different peoples errors. 3) Study from you personal errors. 4) Not study from errors, regardless who makes them.

Warning: A tube tester is an instrument, however many low-cost stuff was bought as devices, to customers that by no means discovered about it. So in a approach all people was glad. On Ebay I see folks outbid one another for testers with new look, typically NOS and of their unique field. Costs of 300 Euro I see have gotten regular. That is so superb, as a result of such testers solely let you know if a tube is damaged or not. That is humorous: When any person presents such a tester as you see right here on the left, all the vendor must do, is image it with a shiny new EL34 Telefunken, the needle properly within the inexperienced, and all people thinks: Wow! That’s what I would like! Solely they neglect there is no such thing as a use within the studying, and even the studying improper. So an excellent tube can come out unhealthy, or vice versa.

However….suppose you’ve a damaged tube in your amplifier. Hey, it means your amplifier does not work. That needs to be clear. Do you want a tube tester to know what tube is the issue? Effectively okay, then that is the tester you want. If you wish to use this tester to separate the great tubes from the much less good ones, neglect about that. A superb tube comes someplace within the inexperienced. Simply someplace. And no, such testers don’t give a relation between the studying and the tube high quality. Irrespective of how a lot you hope for that. There’s nearly nothing inside, three resistors and a miniature transformer. You see, actual tube testers simply do not work that approach. Additionally if some individuals are outbidding one another on Ebay, that does not imply the very best bidder is the neatest. Solely vendor is wise 🙂

Worth: 150 Euro, as a result of all the time some idiot buys them on Ebay for 300 Euro. Worth to your non-public museum: 25 Euro.



Here is a link the page about tube tester accuracy. You also needs to attempt the hyperlink there to MIT professor Lewis’s youtube video about accuracy of measurements. A part of his lectures had been even broadcast on TV.



This younger man is Professor Dr. Barkhausen. He launched in 1918 a method to put the tube parameters right into a handy method much like ohm’s legislation. Initially this habits of tubes was found in 1914 by a person named ‘van der Bijl’, who labored for Western Electrical. Not figuring out tubes would revolution the world, they didn’t comply with up on it.

The principle method is:

D= 1/Acquire
S = Transconductance (G)
Ri = Plate impedance

5) Meter Safety

Really I did not have an excellent place for this merchandise, so I’ve put it right here. There’s nice misunderstanding about panel meter safety. I suppose as a result of all of us assume this is really easy to do. I imply simply two diodes, and a capacitor, and also you’re performed. However… are you actually? I’ve seen so many wrecked up meters from overload, someway the safety is just not working nicely. We’ve to see there are some varieties overload. The primary is an excessive amount of regular present. That is specified by the panel meter firm, and it is often an element 10 or so. The opposite is how a lot mechanical power can the poor coil can take in when the needle it’s hammered violently within the nook. That’s in all probability additionally an element 20 or so, however there is no such thing as a specification for that wherever, however that is the damaging issue more often than not. The injury is usually a bend needle and coil deformation. A bend needle is an issue for multi scale meters, as you can not zero this away for each scales. So when it’s at zero for the surface scale, the meter is just not at zero for the within scale. The bigger Hickoks have 5 or extra scales, and the AVO’s have two. One other downside with a bend needle, is the balancing weights of the needle are actually on the improper place. That may be a massive downside when the meter is just not horizontal, and might causes an errors of 10% at some positions of the size. The injury can be deformation of the coil, when the needles hat hit the nook violently. This deformation might be seen simply once you take away the coil, and in a fortunate case it may be corrected. If not, you find yourself with meter unlinearity.

So defend the coil…? Within the AVO-8 multi meter I noticed a system with a mechanical sensor, sensing the needle comes out of it is vary, and through a pre-loaded spring and a intelligent mechanism, it switches a contact that interrupts the meter coil. So it’s a must to press ‘reset’ once more, additionally you pre-load the spring by this. Although very many AVO-8 have a deformed coil, that system appears to have it limitations too, however in all probability additionally saves lots of the meters.

One other methodology is a capacitor over the meter. This works fairly good, however the meter will get sluggish from it, and also you unfastened a typical benefit after all an analog meter has. So add only a small cap is an efficient concept. By itself not an issue, when the meter has little friction. If it does have friction, the capacitor makes the meter reaches it is last place not all the time excellent. The final millimeter it wants to maneuver, it will get form of caught within the friction, whereas with out capacitor that does not appear to occur so rapidly. So a capacitor is an efficient factor to guard an excellent high quality meter. Now, I see more often than not electrolytic capacitors, however these are inclined to develop a really excessive sequence resistance. This isn’t from drying up, because the sulfuric acid inside attracts water anyway. The failure trigger is, the 100milivolt over the meter coil is just not sufficient to keep up the capacitor’s formatting, they usually simply find yourself with leakage, and too excessive inside resistance on the identical time. Some Hickoks I’ve seen with a foil capacitor over the meter, and that is so much higher. In case you need to use a foil cap, they might be one thing like 5…10uF and right now their measurement is actually affordable. If you don’t want to alter the classic look of the within electronics, a pleasant answer can be a so known as Airtight Sealed Moist Tantalum Capacitor. These are hardly made anymore right now, however any used or NOS is okay. These are electrolytic caps that final for ever, and don’t get leaky or excessive impedance from storage. (The inexperienced image right here, are such caps)

Use of safety diodes. After all you need low ahead voltage diodes, and also you in all probability assume Germanium diodes are superior. Effectively more often than not they aren’t. Motive is, Germanium diodes have one very curious property that silicon does not have. Germanium diodes don’t have any ahead voltage at which they start to function. Should you put a Silicon diode on a curve tracer, it begins to conduct someplace round 0.6 Volts, everyone knows that. Under that, as an instance at 300mV, the diode is simply ‘not there’. It’s a capacitor, and that is all. The Germanium diode Nevertheless, stays a diode beneath 300mV, and beneath 100mV, or 1mV or not matter how low you go. At all times the Germanium diode is higher in ahead route as in reverse route. It is a fairly unhealthy diode at 1mV, so with numerous sequence resistance, however…. it is nonetheless there. Because of this a crystal receiver can rectify indicators of only a few mV. Not with excessive Effiency, however it may. You’ll be able to by no means try this with a silicon diode. Nevertheless, at voltages that will injury a panel meter, silicon can be used. Suppose you need to defend a panel meter of 50uA and 4K resistance, that are regular values for such a meter. That can be 200mV full scale. So a Silicon diode will defend it with an element 3, so something above 150uA (=600mV) ) will go into the diodes. At regular use, so 50uA, that will probably be solely 200mV and the Silicon diode won’t reply to that in anyway. Whereas a Germanium diode will reply to 200mV with some present. (Each ahead, and reverse present). Additionally a Germanium diode will reply to 100mV and to 10mV. That is the rationale, you see silicon diodes defending very delicate meters, and never Germanium. Now, why do they use energy diodes for that, like these large 4 Amps diodes in AVO tube testers, or just like the 1N5401 within the Unigor multi meters. Why not these little tiny ones like 1N4148, which might be made for low present? Effectively… suppose you join one 1N4148 to a voltage of 600mV and it pulls 1mA. Simply suppose. What occurs should you put 10 in parallel? They’ll draw 10mA. And 1000 in parallel will draw 1Ampere from 600mV. Now bigger measurement diodes are nothing however a bigger chip. So a 4 Amps diode pulls considerably extra present from 600mV as a 1N4148. So for circuit safety, the bigger the diode, the higher it responds to low voltage. So a capacitor and a pair of anti parallel Silicon Energy diodes is one of the best safety community for very delicate meters.

6) Shopping for Recommendation

Have you ever already been cheated with a tube tester on Ebay?

Ebay is just not an excellent place to purchase a tube tester. When costs are rocketing, there’s an excessive amount of curiosity to purchase no matter is on the market. On this market, no person will promote an excellent working, dependable tube tester of the type all people wants. He would preserve it, simply because he wants it, they’re exhausting to seek out, and costs go up anyway. That’s the reason they’re so exhausting to seek out in good situation. What’s for gross sales is the entire class of testers which might be of little sensible use, or appear not possible to calibrate, or have repairs developing, have fungus inside, or different causes, to dump them on Ebay. So don’t imagine you are going to be the fortunate man, paying solely a low worth for a tremendous tester. Additionally do not assume worst case you get one which you’ll capable of repair with a multi meter and a few fundamental information. Folks purchase them, attempt them out, discover the issue, and the issue is all the time very troublesome. I’ve misplaced of unfavourable expertise on Ebay. You’ll rarely discover a tester you can restore elegantly. I believed so myself too, however that was a very long time in the past. Typical issues are all the time exhausting. Like partially shorted transformers, unhealthy panel meters, none repairable switches for Funke and Neuberger. All sort of issues that had been not possible repair by the earlier proprietor makes the factor land on Ebay. The vendor all the time tries to look the untechnical Mr. good man, so he desires to place you within the ‘fortunate’ place. Then once you discover out he bought you a bit of junk , he’s has all excuses already ready. The Ebay textual content was formulated with nice care, and within the you find yourself because the ‘unfortunate’ man. Actuality is usually, the vendor has been attempting like mad to get it fastened, and gave up on it. Gave it to technical pals who broken it additional, and no matter they did, it was not a restore. With the loopy costs on Ebay, he simply sells it, and buys one other one for a similar cash. WIth a couple of tries he might be fortunate. So he cannot go improper. And nooo… I’m not paranoia. I speak about my expertise right here. It’s important to learn these Ebay provides with a pointy eye for element. Simply take a look at the above image. What animals do you see there? A cat and a mouse? No sir. It is a cat and a hamster.

Listed here are the observations I made:

  • When the tester is bought as ‘faulty’ they convey half of a ‘excellent’ one. When they’re marketed as ‘from my uncle who handed away’, that’s regarded preferrred, as a result of there’s widespread perception that lifeless uncles go away all the time good working tube testers to untechnical nephews. We have to be real looking, we can’t ask the lifeless uncle anymore. What you’re shopping for, in actuality is: Untested, no assure and no returns. More often than not, you discover suggestions of the vendor, associated to tubes, and the vendor is shopping for and promoting outdated electronics. And when his uncle leaves him a tube tester, he sells it untested. Take a look at your self, would YOU promote a tube tester untested? Would not it’s higher to test if it really works, and get the next worth? I see this so usually, and in the long run the folks come to me, asking if I can repair it for a low worth.

  • Overlook additionally the testers that had been present in a storage. These cannot be fastened with contact spray. Or, the vendor says it was ‘discovered on the attic’ and also you assume that’s good, as a result of attics are dry. Effectively, maybe you’ll discover out WHY any person put this tester asleep many years in the past. As an illustration the transformer has some defect. Then right now, first it’s a must to restore the rusty witches and unhealthy contacts, and when you find yourself performed, you discover the transformer continues to be a nasty because it was earlier than. So you’ll come to the identical conclusion as any person 50 ears in the past. Such issues occurred to me a number of instances!

  • Do not take a tester with a reduce off mains twine. This means, way back the mains twine was value greater than the tester. Effectively okay, costs of outdated testers have gone up, and costs of mains cords haven’t, however the indicators aren’t good for such a tester. Additionally do not take a tester with the deck plate screws lacking, or it has shiny new screws. It solely means, way back somebody thought it wasn’t value placing it again collectively. This one is a really dependable trace: If case appears handled like junk, for positive it means: Someone handled it like junk. The query is just, what makes you assume he was improper? Or, a examined appears extraordinarily used. That may be a excellent signal, as a result of any person used if for many years, and by no means had the necessity to substitute it.

  • Take solely a tester that’s assured to be OK,and ideally it was utilized by the vendor itself. It will not be low-cost, and nonetheless the vendor is aware of higher than you why he sells it, however you get at the very least a principally working tester. Sorry for the lecturing, however i do know this from the various requests from individuals who purchased their damaged testers on Ebay.

EBAY

Ebay Examples of good testers. Though I recommend not to buy a tube tester on Ebay

Ebay Examples of useless testers. A waste of money, no matter where you buy them.

SO WHERE DO I GET MY TUBE TESTERS FROM?

I get them from folks I do know, and for the remainder of it, I’m not shopping for from strangers except low-cost. When shopping for on Ebay, I solely take sellers with 100% optimistic, and I make the proposal I can attempt it out, and when the factor is just not as described, I can ship it again. When the same old story comes about ‘we promote it as is’, then be ready for technical points. So simply stroll away, or pay 50percentonly.

What would you say when you should buy a classic automobile on Ebay, from somebodies uncle, who simply died. After all it’s “believed” to be good. Simply the nephew had no possibility to check it, it was simply within the storage for years. You get photos solely, no assure, no return, and fee upfront. This alarm bell, you must have with a tube tester additionally.

LINK to Ebay PROBLEMS. Here we go again.

Some very fashionable classic testers.

Model

Mannequin

AVO

All fashions

Hickok

TV7, 539C

Neuberger

RPG375

Funke

W19, W20

Kalibr

L3-3

ELPO

507

METRIX

U61

7) Tube testers assortment – ANALOG PART.




Bias King

This can be a good little instrument, having the ability to measure the plate present of a tube contained in the amplifier. For sensible causes, really not the plate present is measured, however the cathode present. So this implies all grid present(s) are added to the studying.That is after all primarily the display grid present, however that may be a number of mA. For that reason, and likewise as a result of the cathode present is all you get, it’s not a lot a tube tester, however relatively a bias tester. So the bias present is what you get. The most effective is, to put in writing down the preliminary values on a sticker on the tube base, so you’ll be able to evaluate with that later. Some small lack of plate present throughout tube life is regular, and with the Bias King you’ll be able to watch this course of, and see if the tubes are nonetheless in stability. Manual here

CONCLUSION: Higher as you anticipate! Drawback although, it may solely run on AC heated amplifiers, be very cautious with this.



BITMATIC

The bitmatic could be very unknown, however let’s attempt to change this right here 🙂 When you’re considering of shopping for an Amplitrex AT1000, and prepared to spend this a lot cash, take into account additionally the Bitmatic. Although after all the Bitmatic is one thing utterly totally different. This tester is predicated on the Hickok cardmatic, which a totally programmable tester, however it’s programmed with playing cards. The playing cards function relays, actually setting the entire tester, together with voltages leakage, shorts, and no matter. The Cardmatic is an ideal {hardware}, extraordinarily mature, no design errors, and really prime quality elements are inside. The concept was right here to function it through PC, and never with punch playing cards. Because the punch playing cards initially function relays, all you want to do is management the relays, and there you go. The cardmatic by itself can actually do extraordinarily detailed, versatile, and sophisticated testing. It is regulated energy provides are all tube based mostly. Drawback: the tubes. Benefit: the tubes! So it is possible for you to to service and restore it after 30 years simply usually. I doubt that in regards to the Amplitrex. I’m not attempting to promote the bitmatic right here, but it surely’s a fantastic machine. The cardmatic is totally refurbished, aside from the Relays What I see as a small drawback is the software program is below DOS. Although nicely written DOS is okay to work with and really quick on a contemporary PC with a DOS emulator. You do want to know set up the DOSBOX emulator. Effectively or you’ll be able to run an actual DOS PC, however that isn’t advisable, as you’ve 10x higher choices with DOSBOX. Similar to stop DOSBOX, and print the recordsdata below home windows. I’ve by no means examined the Bitmatic, however my impression is superb. It appears to have the ability to take a look at much more than the AT1000, and the heater is AC, which is extra logical for testing Instantly heated tubes. Apart from the Bitmatic does a shorts take a look at, which is the standard downside with most digital testers. As this prices many relays. So what you get here’s a piece of fine outdated tube {hardware}, refurbished by the vendor. New made digital controllers (appear fairly rugged PCB’s. no SMD Stuff) and DOS software program. So DOS you want to like, and be capable of arrange the Emulator, however then DOS software program by itself appears higher made than the Amplitrex should you ask me. You do have to know the bounds (most voltage and present) are decrease than the AT1000 in all probability. For that, you’ll be able to extract extra knowledge and extra curves from the tubes. The bitmatic can be a heavy piece whereas AT1000 is gentle weighted and compact. So none is best than the opposite. I’d say AT1000 is best for Ebay sellers, or once you want a number of (we use three) however Bitmatic is best once you need to examine intimately your personal tubes, and when you’ve time, and need to know all particulars. Folks reward the software program updates of the Bitmatic, which is an efficient signal. My advice is, solely purchase it with schematics, so you’ll be able to service it nonetheless after 10 or 15 years, and positively the promoting worth WITH schematics will probably be one other once you would promote it. This appears a superb product, in all probability not too many had been made, and will probably be made.



CANOR

The Alladdin Mk1/ Mk2 is a brand new made digital Tester from Slowakia. Extra info will comply with.

DETAILED TEST REPORT + COMPARE WITH OTHER DIGITAL TESTERS



Centrad 752

I’ll describe it later. This tester appears a bit like a Taylor 45C. It has one faulty selector change that us simple to restore… simply to have time. So I can’t choose any tube, however nearly any. This little pearl is predicated on the circuitry of the 45C, but it surely has extra and higher choices, additionally it had the selectors for any random tube, identical because the AVO’s have. All collectively this can be a mixture of AVO Mk1, Taylor 45C, and the designer saved completely not on good choices. It has for example the skilled leakage take a look at methodology, identical because the AVO’s have. This implies an actual ohms measurement, however with a excessive voltage as bias. Thus the designers had been conscious, typically the one, typically the opposite methodology is best. Heater voltage very curiously performed, with a rough and a tremendous adjustment. Effectively, I’ve probably not checked out it intimately. Some incandescent lamps are used as a fuse, identical as Hickok does. Reality is, the tester works, and is exact. It may well do lots of the European B4B5 socket tubes like PX4, PX 25, and so forth. Straightforward to deal with and a pleasant design. It’s bigger because it appears on the image, and fairly heavy. Manual_French . Manual_Dutch . Meter_picture . Large_Picture_of_Tester



Ebay costs seen:
2007: 280$

CONAR

Nearly unknown model tube checker. These use all tubes as a rectifier, and cargo that rectifier circuit with a variable resistor. It is the ‘D’ knob right here. Work at too low voltage, and do extra issues improper as nicely. The nice perform of a tube tester is just not confirmed be testing NOS tubes and get a pleasant ‘inexperienced’. The query is, if a selected ‘?’ tube comes out simply that approach. As an illustration the Japanese TC-02 (Fairly often bought on Ebay) provides a ‘inexperienced’ to nearly any tube, good or unhealthy. The TC-02 is a bit of junk so to say. Nevertheless, I had two TV10 from Superior devices, wanting the identical approach and these picked out the unhealthy ones fairly good. So sure, such a tester can work, however solely you probably have proof. I’d say it’s value 50$ for the enjoyable of proudly owning it, however you can not take a look at tubes with it in a dependable approach. No cease! It is value much more, as a result of you’ll be able to promote in on Ebay properly. Sure, that is what you must do with it.

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DIY Tube tester (1)

Many DIY testers exist, and it’s fascinating to see typically 50 years outdated variations of these. Some are very nice performed, and a few not so good. At this time, usually the testers are made as digital merchandise, and you may see the maker getting deeply into software program points, and the {hardware} getting bigger as meant. For that purpose, a pleasant approach is use digital panel meters, and for the remaining arrange the tester within the good outdated analog approach. From my very own expertise I can say, use solely industrial meters for this. The Chinese language Ebay meters have unlinearity issues. Suppose you calibrate it for 1000V full scale , and measure 99V. So you turn to the 100V vary to get extra accuracy, however you measure instantly 98V. (Mmmm ?!) The reason being panel meter inside unlinearity. You’ll be able to’t calibrate that away. The costly meters haven’t got this downside. Because the tester is an instrument, you want to make the total idea earlier than you begin, preserve the wiring easy, but forestall to neglect capabilities that it’s a must to add later. So the factor will get serviceable later. With the idea being ‘last’ from the start, you can also make a pleasant entrance plate, use good knobs, and paint it skilled. Right here is a type of merchandise, which I believe is extraordinarily nicely performed. It was made by a personal individual. He’s 78 years outdated, (whereas I write this in 2011). He admires tubes for the commercial design ‘artwork’ in them. So that is any person with time and expertise, and the proper coronary heart beat to construct one thing final. The result’s probably the most stunning analog tester I ever noticed. Read more about it.



Ebay costs seen:

2007: Good one 680€
2007: Faulty 313€

ELPO 508

Purchased it on Ebay, and bought cheated with it. In keeping with the German vendor it was very correct, but it surely produced full nonsense after I tried it. I made a decision to maintain it, and restore it later.

Effectively this tester is a wierd one. It appears to me like an AVO Mark 5. The precept is totally the identical because the later AVO’s have, solely in comparison with the ELPO 508, the AVO’s are nearly primitive building.

CONCLUSION: This can be a MOST fascinating tester, take into account it a contemporary, a lot improved model of AVO Mk4.

Read more about it.



EICO 666 tube tester / Linked to digital Curve Tracer

The Eico 666 is a really good tester. It is not a type of ‘diode’ testers. So those that take a look at all tubes as diodes. Although it appears like one, it is not!. The within is exceptionally good made, and elements inside are excessive precision. That is an instrument! Beware you purchase a manufacturing facility wired model, and never a equipment model. Kits can look horrible inside, and will have wiring errors. The take a look at circuit of the 666 is superb and mature. It really works a bit just like the AVO Mk4 really, however the EICO exhibits just some quantity for plate present, and the great/unhealthy is derived from that. (so no transconductance measurement). Positive not as versatile because the Mk4, however a few of the working rules are the identical. Additionally the leakage take a look at is completed the identical. I purchased this tester for a particular venture. More about it here.




W19-S Emission Tester


W16 Emission Tester


The well-known Blue E-book

FUNKE. (Max Funke) Electron take a look at gear manufacturing facility.

These testers had been made by a German Engineer, Max Funke, who spend his complete life constructing tube testers. After the battle he discovered his firm positioned within the Russian occupied zone, East Germany, and his property was stolen by the authorities. He organized a dramatic escape to West Germany, dismantling his entire manufacturing facility, and cargo all of it in a practice. The cargo was imagined to go the West, with false papers, and Max and his household would escape to the West through one other approach. The factor with the practice was betrayed, and the products completely stolen by the Russians. Nevertheless, the Funke household may escape in 1952, and he based the corporate Max Funke KG along with a accomplice who financed him. As he had all plans in his head, he was capable of ramp up manufacturing in West Germany in solely 6 months. In 1964 he went into pension, and the corporate closed all actions in 1976.

After this time comes a really curious interval, that know little or no about. The entire and unique manufacturing facility was preserved for 30 years, till in 2006 the proprietor of the constructing died. What I do know I used to be solely advised. The youngsters, who inherited the constructing the place not , and solely needed to promote the constructing. The gross sales of the constructing + what was inside, was performed by a dealer, from whom the contents on the cabinets was uninteresting, as he will get his share of the constructing gross sales. Nevertheless, some insiders had keys to the constructing, figuring out rattling nicely what was saved in there. It was the whole stock of a forty five years outdated firm. I used to be ship photos of this, by somebody who was in good and sincere contact with the Funke household, and he was so upset by what occurred. Although in the long run the inheritants determined there was little they may do in opposition to it. Inside was a large quantity of half completed supplies, incl 50 (!) new testers initially boxed, new substitute pins in sealed plastic luggage, the pin boards, knobs, meters – something. A whole wall with cabinets, and a pile of every PAGE of the blue ebook. I noticed photos of that shelve wall myself. Think about what number of blue books that provides, as a result of the ebook’s clip covers had been there too. Full containers of resistors, sockets, TONS of recent take a look at playing cards, and will many different issues. Like Ali Baba’s treasury cave. All of it laying properly sorted on cabinets. It occurred round 2006. At a HAM market I noticed folks with outstanding quantities of FUNKE substitute elements. There’s a film on youtube in regards to the outdated manufacturing facility, however I can let you know this was after a fantastic lot of stuff, was already faraway from the constructing. Within the years after 2006, we noticed all these NOS W19 testers in Ebay, even some in unique cargo cartons. What shall I say. Even right now whereas I write this in 2015, individuals are promoting dozens of full NOS units of take a look at playing cards, blue books, and knobs and meters and no matter small elements in heaps. You’ll be able to simply see there’s a ‘supply’ someplace. In 2009 the manufacturing facility constructing was in use for an alternate power venture, firing wooden to generate electrical energy. The manufacturing facility documentation because it was discovered, is now saved within the archives of the German Museum in München.

Within the web I discovered some documentation on a Funke Oscilloscope, and likewise some grounding take a look at gear he construct, in addition to TV image tube testers. A miniature capacitor tester, a battery tester, and so forth. It appears Max was a genius, but it surely appears additionally he was not specializing in what he may do finest. The later tube testers had playing cards for transistors too, however issues went too quick for him, as he grew to become older, and there was no person to comply with him up. His work with tube testes ended with two prime fashions, the W19S and W20. Although he had a brand new parametric tester preparation, mannequin W23, however this one by no means made it into manufacturing, because the finish of the tubes manufacturing was close to. The W19S is the biggest and last mannequin which is totally programmed through the punch playing cards. The W19S model has a Septar socket, which is a militray tube solely, and a extra rugged case. Whereas W19 has the benefit of a stunning shiny wood case, and is lighter weight. A complete of 5000pcs W19 had been made, and I believe most of them nonetheless exist as a result of it is an after battle mannequin.

 

They made two sort of tube testers, every having it is particular benefits, justifying it is personal existence. These are

1) Parametric tube testers, like W20.
2) Emission testers, like W16, W18, W19.

 

1) Parametric Testers. For all of us there’s this ‘should have’ or ‘need to have’ query once we outline our wants for technical gear. With parametric testers it turns into fairly outstanding, folks say they ‘want’, however it’s extra they solely ‘need’ it for no logic purpose. They really feel merely attracted by the various knobs and meters of a parametric tester, however they don’t understand, these knobs and buttons and meters, they ALL must operated once you take a look at a tube. Then, when you don’t totally perceive what you’re doing, you could injury the tubes below take a look at, or even the tester. That is actually troublesome to hammer into peoples thoughts, however it’s simply for that reason, Emission testers had been made. And no, Emission Testers aren’t primitive in any respect, I imply not when you’ve one from Funke. (extra about this later…) So having a parametric tester, means it turns into much more time consuming to check tubes, as a result of it’s a must to tune all these settings whereas the tube is warming up. So once you change the plate present (by your self, or simply as a result of the tube is warming up) you want to re-adjust the plate voltage, because it tends to drop. Then after you’re performed, you get offered all these parameters, and you want to give interpretation to that. Hopefully you understand how that is performed. If not, you could find yourself requiring +/-10% deviation for parameters with out figuring out why you made up that quantity ‘10%’. And no, datasheets do not assist out with that. Then, as slightly bonus, the FUNKE Parametric testers provide you with an excellent/unhealthy indication for the tube, which is actually NO MORE THAN THAT. This is essential to know. The parametric testers provide you with what you need: The Parameters, so that you, the knowledgeable, can now choose for your self intimately. To place it in easy phrases: A parametric tester offers you the tube PARAMETERS, and never the TUBE CONDITION. An Emission Tester offers you the tube situation, and never the parameters. Although tube situation might be derived from the parameters in an imprecise approach, and at the very least the Funke Parametric testers will do that for you, however you will need to regard this end result a sign solely. If a FUNKE parametric testes tells you a tube is ‘simply okay’ it might as nicely be simply not okay, or vice versa. So, if the holy grail query is how a lot lifetime is left inside, you then what you want is a Funke Emission Tester, which is specifically made for this objective solely.

2) Funke Emission testers. Make good word, the Funke Emission testers don’t have anything, actually nothing to do with all these low-cost, crappy little testers you can purchase on Ebay for costs from 100..300 Euro. Such are value nearly nothing, and they’re solely helpful for what they had been meant for, and that’s discover the damaged tubes in a malfunctioning radio. A extremely prime quality emission tester, is one thing else. This assessments the tube’s Emission below hardest attainable situations. So actually when an tube needs to be able to 40mA at 180V, then it is going to attempt to test this, even when regular use situation is just 20mA at 250V. In order you’ll be able to see from the instance, the tube is even thermally overloaded at 40mA /180V, so the handbook for such an Tester will say to not take a look at the tube longer than 30 seconds. This can be a actual emission tester. Once more, to not ne confused with the Junk on Ebay. An Emission tester is testing all amplifier tubes (…maintain your breath…) like a diode. I additionally questioned myself what the concept behind that is. At first I believed that was an affordable method to take a look at tubes. How a lot I used to be mistaken by that! Later, I discovered the reply within the blue ebook by Max Funke. The concept is certainly having little interest in Grid voltage settings of the tube. The strategy Max Funke makes use of, could be very clever. He says, let’s assume the tube producer did an excellent job, when the tube was examined earlier than leaving the manufacturing facility. This implies, the transconductance was above minimal and beneath most. Even when such limits had been by no means revealed, they positive existed in a manufacturing surroundings. Identical for the plate impedance, and the tube acquire. This was all inside their very own (un)revealed limits. Additionally the plate present at specified situations was right. Then the tube was discovered to be good. It was bought, and utilized in some gear. Later, a technician can have this tube on the bench and needs to know whether it is nonetheless good. In the course of the use interval, emission slowly reduces, which once more causes all tube parameters to get much less good. Now, Max Funke says, all we want, is a totally dependable method to discover out if the emission continues to be good, and if that’s the case, all different parameters have to be good additionally. After all this assumption can solely be true, if the tube has no leakage or vacuum loss, and if fundamental functioning continues to be given.

Right here is the proof: If in case you have some worn out tube, that you simply meant to throw away, you’ll be able to re take a look at it at 50% increased heater voltage, which boosts up emission to ‘like new’ for a short while, and you will notice the worn out tube assessments like new this fashion. Or, vice versa take a brand new tube, and scale back the heater voltage by 50%, and you will notice all dynamic parameters, and plate present are the identical as with an end-of-life tube. So certainly, when you’ll be able to say emission at regular heater voltage is robust, there’s not different conclusion the tube have to be tremendous. Let me repeat the belief, the tube was totally examined by the producer, and the tube passes now a leakage and fuel take a look at with good end result, and fundamental perform is given.

So the Funke emission testers works like this: A) Take a look at the heater. B) Take a look at all electrodes for leakage, one after the other. C) Take a look at emission. D) Take a look at for Fundamental perform. E) Take a look at for fuel.Observe, you’ll be able to and you must solely take a look at for B) after the tube handed A), and the identical with all different steps. If it fails at one step, you want to cease and reject the tube. So when you find yourself arrive at E) and the tube was exhibiting sufficient Emission at C), solely then the tube is okay.

All of that is performed with only one knob, and takes lower than a minute. Personally, I imagine there is no such thing as a higher methodology. The query is just: The right way to take a look at emission? For this, the Hickok firm assessments the tubes at lowered heater voltage, and as all Hickok do: at a lot lowered dissipation. Which is a piece round, not having to generate excessive energy with an costly circuit. The Funke firm goes the final word approach. They take a look at the tubes on the regular heater voltage, at most dissipation, after which assessments if the tube can do greater than regular plate present. The take a look at result’s crystal clear. A tube should learn at the least within the ‘?’ vary. This implies such tube will work in most functions, but it surely’s unsure for the way lengthy. So they are saying, once you pull such a tube from working gear, you could take into account to place it again in. That’s what the ‘?’ mark is for. The following is the place ‘good’ begins. Initially of ‘good’ the tube is assured to work in all functions for an inexpensive time. To work very lengthy, it must be someplace above. As a rule of thumb, a NOS tube reads 30% increased as the place ‘good’ begins. It’s as simple as that. That is for amplifier tubes. Rectifier tubes are put in an actual tube rectifier circuit, and pulling the utmost present for that tube. Then, the output present is quantified on a scale in the identical approach. So ‘?’ and ‘good begins at’. Make word, all Funke Emission testers, even the tine ones, can take a look at at max 500V AC and max 250VDC, and so at at max 250mA. Even so, excessive energy amplifier tubes might be tester at 500VAC and 250mA. So 125 Watt dissipation. That’s actually outstanding. To show this, I designed a 300B and 300B-XLS test card myself, testing these tube at fairly excessive dissipation.

Why testing like this works so quick? Effectively heater take a look at and leakage take a look at take solely a fraction of a second. You’ll be able to rotate the primary knob fairly quick to ‘Emission Testing’. Then you will notice the emission come up, and the second you see it’s ‘sufficient’ above minimal you’re performed. After all you’ll be able to wait till it stabilizes someplace, however you do not have to. Already at minimal, a tube is okay, and desires not to get replaced. So you’ll be able to proper after do fundamental ‘perform take a look at’ this implies some change of plate present have to be seen once you enter this place. Subsequent is fuel take a look at, and alter needs to be presumably low, identical as with all different tube testers. Already you’re performed. For the specialists, you’ll be able to return now to Emission Testing, and let the tube get actually sizzling. Then, when sizzling, rotate again step-by-step by all of the leakage assessments (rapidly) and also you are actually performing leakage assessments on a sizzling tube.

Take a look at settings of the Emission Tester aren’t secret, they’re printed on each card. So, 50 years of data and expertise are put into these take a look at settings. That’s sort of exhausting to exchange. Understanding this, take a look at such foolish emission testers like TC2, and what silly circuits is inside, and you actually surprise why folks pay 300 Euro for such a ‘factor’ on Ebay.



Funke Einheitstester (W16 variation Mannequin)

The is the primary mannequin of the one-knob testers which works with out inside battery, and the unfavourable grid voltage was made by the facility provide itself. After this was made the W16, W18 and W19 which principally work the identical, solely have extra sockets. This tester has acquired the identify ‘Einheitstester’ in English ‘normal tester’ as a result of it had solely the European Commonplace sockets.

Click on this hyperlink for a restoration venture with this tester, schematics, and particulars about it is perform. Read more…

CONCLUSION: That is the primary actually good ‘one-knob’ Funke tester, with all the great options.



Funke W19. Manufacturing unit worth in 1968: 425 Euro. Appr 5000 pcs had been manufactured, from 1951….1976.

 

W19S is the army model, vs W19 which is the civil model. The W19S had an extra Septar socket, and rugged case.

 

This Funke W19 made in 1968 , I purchased on Ebay in mentioned to be ‘working situation’,
however that was nearly it, for the remaining it was a large number. No less than the essential materials was excellent. The person paid me again a few of the cash, and for me it was okay then. I really like good devices, and I spend over one week restoring and calibrating it, together with the meter linearity.
Now it’s like new once more.
The most effective in regards to the W19 is,
is has no settings.
So that you plug within the pins on the take a look at card, and you may learn if the tube is sweet or not.
It really works with digital stabilized voltages,
and desires no calibration or service.
When the management lamp burns,
it means the interior electronics is working.
They considered the consumer’s consolation.
I’d say it is
THE tester amongst skilled tube sellers.
It provides very dependable outcomes. When shopping for a Funke W19 examined tube, I do know what I get, and moreover I may even confirm it now. It may well measure nearly any tube, USA and American, and might be operated with out having to assume so much, and the studying is stabile in a short time. So that you need not warmth up the tubes very lengthy. (Although you do have to warmth up the tester for 10 minutes, so the interior voltage stabilizer reaches it is correct voltage). It’s preferrred for having to check 100’s of
tubes.
Once I verified the outcomes,
unhealthy tubes, had been actually unhealthy, and “?” tubes are certainly identical to that, and new tubes from Electro Harmonics, Sovtek, and so forth., are all the time indicated at or above 100%

Right here is how the W19 works, it is so simple as environment friendly and dependable. The W19 works with take a look at playing cards, and you can also make no mistake with these. Everyone knows this unusual feeling when plugging in a 500€ tube in a tester. You test all settings 5 instances, and nonetheless are afraid to your costly tube to explode. When testing an ECC803S with some other tester than the W19, first I plug in an affordable JJ tube. Nevertheless, when testing an costly NOS RE134, I’ve no low-cost JJ tube to attempt it first. Right here is the place the W19S is available in, it is a good feeling you are able to do actually nothing improper. All voltages are set by the cardboard. The interior voltages are taken from a ladder community. So the plate voltage is stabilized, but in addition different stabilized voltages derived from this. Now what is good, you rotate the one button it has, all although the positions 1…13. In place ‘0’ the entire tester is off. From 1…10 it performs all of the leakage and brief circuit assessments, and every take a look at is handed when the meter stays on the ‘zero’ place. Suppose it fails one take a look at, the meter goes to the left, right into a small white zone first, which is appropriate, and if it goes additional a pink zone begins, which is the place ‘leakage’ begins. On the massive knob are symbols like ‘grid-to-plate’ and so forth, so you’ll be able to see what take a look at it was. That’s all there’s to say about the way it works. I examined it with a KT88 and an exterior 400k resistor from grid to filament, and it signifies the center of the pink scale. Good!

Place 11 is the precise take a look at, and the outcomes is pre-printed on the take a look at card.

Place 12 provides the transconductance by altering the grid voltage from 0V to -2V. So you want to calculate the micromhos (=mA/V). The transconductance take a look at is invalid with tubes that reduce off at -2V, but in addition right here the cut-off ought to happen, so at the very least that you realize, and the tube might be good. With different tubes you’ll be able to calculate the transconductance like this.

Place 13 provides the vacuum situation, and also you’re performed.

The playing cards are the software program, the W19 the {hardware}. What is good in regards to the playing cards, they’ve the tube primary knowledge printed on them, together with connections, and normal settings. Additionally many substitute varieties. Then it provides the really take a look at settings within the W19, the plate present, and most vital, it tells you what’s unhealthy, ‘?’ and good. These playing cards are actually correct. That is why I just like the W19 a lot.

Costs: I gather some from Ebay, costs are rising rapidly. Regardless of that the unique Funke manufacturing facility was cleared someplace round 2005. From that closure a number of materials got here on Ebay, specifically stacks of NOS take a look at playing cards, a number of blue books, switches and meters. Even new circumstances have popped up on Ebay. Nonetheless costs go up and up. I purchased mine for a couple of hundred Euro. You’ll be able to solely dream of that now.

There’s the W19S and W19. The ‘S’ is the army one, and appears much less good, but it surely has extra sockets and the next rated transformer. It may well do filament present as much as 4 Amps and plate dissipation as much as 50Watt, but in addition can delicately and exactly measure battery tubes at lower than a mA. It may well take a look at greater tubes additionally with an AC plate voltage, which makes it attainable to check any tube as much as 250mA. The studying is in equal DC milliamps, which appears to signify actual DC measurements properly. I attempted that out. Rectifiers might be examined used as much as 250mA.

Making assessments playing cards is a bit of cake, as a result of once you take away the cardboard, you’ve all of the settings properly printed beneath. So you’ll be able to choose the plate voltages AC or DC by plug within the correspondent pin. When the take a look at does what you need, you can also make your personal card rapidly from a sheet of paper, and stick the take a look at pins by the paper.

Read here about an interesting 1935 patent from Funke. This tester was never made.


Image from the patent


A really Good concept: Exchange the stabilizer by a NOS tube.


CONCLUSION: Prime Mannequin, no compromise tester. Very best for for who need to get a really fast and dependable end result, which is completely revered by everybody. I’ve one seen a W19 on Ebay, which was a really late mannequin, and it had a semiconductor rectifier inside, and a ceramic multi-deck change as an alternative of the older kind rotational change. The newer change is electrically appears an enchancment, however the operation of the brand new change won’t as comfy because the outdated kind. The outdated change is okay too, but it surely positively wears out rapidly. The semiconductor rectifier is good, however presents no safety in case of a brief circuit.

Ebay

costs seen:

Public sale Nr:

2012

Good 1199€

221000641898

2012

NOS in field 2000€

251003864081

2007

NOS in field 1496€

290178443397

2007

Faulty
450€

2007

good: 875€

2007

NOS in field 1375€

2007

good: 935€

330184793844

2006

Blue ebook: 40€

2006

Incomplete 200€



Common Radio 561

I used to be requested to place in right here, an honourable point out of the Common Radio 561-D and 1661-A, and I positive will try this.

General Radio tube testers 561D

Take a look at circuits for Acquire, Transconductance and Plate resistance.

These aren’t any tube testers within the commom sense of the phrase. There have been meant for producers of tubes and transistors the measure any sort of dynamic parameter. They wanted exterior DC voltage sources, to bias the DUT (System Underneath Take a look at) and likewise exterior unstruments to provide the take a look at sign, and browse the end result. The advantage of these was to provide a professional take a look at setup, and remove any errors attributable to capacitance through the use of a bridge ciruit. They had been used by all producers to put in writing their tube and transistor manuals.

Simply identical knowledge from the manuals:

  • Acquire: 0.001 to 10.000
  • Transconductance (gm) 0.02 to 50.000 mMho
  • Accuracy 2%
  • Present and Voltage rankings: 150mA, 1500V

Manual 561-DManual 1661-A


Grundig Tubatest, made in Germany

 

Tubatest: Model with connector on the again for the adapter equipment
Tubatest 2: Model with the adapter equipment construct in, in a single greater case. The adapter equipment has a change for numerous octal based mostly tubes. Additionally it has sufficient place so as to add Noval Sockets if you’d like.
Tubatest L3: A stripped down Tubatest (1), with out the connector for the adapter equipment

That is fascinating tester was made proper after WW2, below the corporate identify RVF (Radio-Vertrieb Fürth). Tubatest might be discovered at low value nonetheless, and it really works good. The Tubatest 2 that I’ve, is a pleasant piece of {hardware}, in a robust and good case, and you may work on it simply. The switches are good made and prime quality. The way in which the function is logical and nicely considered. I believe it’s value a couple of hundred Euro, however when you find yourself fortunate you should buy a Tubatest 2 beneath 100 Euro on Ebay, as a result of costs principally are oriented to the (fairly ineffective) Tubatest L3, which has solely the historic kind European sockets. So, Tubatest 2 is my secret tip, or in any other case Tubatest (1) when you will get it along with the uncommon adapter equipment .

Shopping for Recommendation! Most info and worth orientation within the web is for the gorgeous ineffective Tubatest L3. That model is for the museum solely, as a result of it had no adapter equipment construct in, and no connector for it both! Should you ware in search of a pleasant tubatest, you want the “Tubatest 2”. Do not be confused by the numbers. “L3” is the small one. “2” has the adapter for Octal sockets construct in. Curiously, not like the L3, the “2” model had no lid. So that you migh get it cheaper as a result of the vendor thinks the lid was lacking. Additionally as they’d no lid, the deck plate could also be in detoriated situation, and the meter as nicely. It actually will depend on the storage.

 

 

 

The unique handbook was with it, in collectors situation. There was a reputation stamp on it from a radio store, and my impression is, this was the primary proprietor. I had no time too take a look at it, however I did so 15 years later. Trying to find that store identify, I discovered the empty store on the market at a dealer, and likewise a household web site, and any person wrote they inherited that radio store they usually mentioned they bought the outdated equiment on Ebay. So I used to be the one who purchased the tester 🙂 I discovered that 15 years after I purchased it.

After opening the tester, it was a time capsule. It was by no means labored on. Inside was a unfastened paper, saying it was manufactured April 1946. So 72 years in the past. It’s important to perceive that date. In 1946, Germany was occupied by the Individuals, and Max Grundig was forbidden till additional discover, to manufaccture radios as he meant, as a result of he had employed 150 deported ladies from Ukraine, engaged on elements for secret weapons. Throughout his work for the Hitler regime, Max Grundig discovered so much about army gear. So he mentioned, okay if I’m not allowed to provide radios, maybe I can produce tube testers? And so they let him try this. Some years after, he was allowed to start out a radio manufacturing facility, and he dropped the tube tester line. So Tubatest 2 was the final one he made.

Although I’m completely positive I used to be the primary individual to open it, I used to be surprized by the standard of the wires and isolation supplies. I may go away that every one as is. It appears like all regular plasic wire from right now. The 2 switches are over engineered high quality, and the metals of the switches is a strong silver alloy, and you may take all of them aside till the final piece. The work which wanted to be performed, was cleansing of the switches, resolder (all!) joints, totally restore the panel meter, and a few small restore of wooden cracks. It’s in good situation once more. This tester works very dependable and is ready to do many fashionable tubes, should you take the difficulty to seek out out the settings. It even has unique settings for 6L6. Which you too can use for KT88. I’ve drawn the schematic with new software program, after which it grew to become clear the way it labored. The strategy for testing for shorts and leaks is intelligent and fascinating. And most of all it really works. We get the identical state of affairs as all the time. If I put am RE84 radio tube from the 1930’s on the tester, it is going to for example say, it’s “weak however simply okay” So I do know that. Then I can put it on a curve tracer and get the curves, which inform me nothing. I can take a look at transconductance which is 25% decrease. All of that tells you nothing. However this tester, primarily made for such tubes, sais it is “simply okay”…. I belief it.

Grundig’s firm rise and fall was spectacular, and their finish got here after they went for the improper video recorder normal. They by no means bought over that, and Max Grundig died in tjat interval. His very younger spouse needed to clear up the mess, and sge managed the corporate from one das to the opposite. She took a number of clever decions, and maybe Max ought to have let her accomplish that earlier than. She was ready to avoid wasting elements, but it surely was little evaluate to what it as soon as was.

Formally the corporate nonetheless exists, now within the fingers of promoting folks, promoting merchandise with “Grundig” printed on it.



HELIOWATT, Berlin Germany.

Technically very stunning. Looks as if a small Neuberger RPG 370. I hope to revive it, and certainly use it to check pre-war radio tubes like RE134 and RENS varieties. Learn more about it here.


Hickok Tester, how to decide on the proper mannequin

1. Fashions earlier than the Hickok patent. Very outdated testers, not sensible right now.

2. Technician fashions, Giant case

Offers a fast end result, simple to function. Has some particular options like life-time take a look at. Medium precision. Giant case, with numerous house inside so as to add additional sockets, or 115V to 230V transformer

3. Technician fashions, Small case

Simplified variations of the big case testers. Decrease precision, smaller measurement.

4. Laboratory fashions

Require extra settings, however may do extra. Have increased generic precision, attributable to much less compromises with the circuitry. Some have even a separate filament transformer.

5. Card matic

Hickok known issues, problems and general information

Hickok company photo archive



Hickok testers, Common options

  • Micromho (=ma/V) readings, via a patented Hickok two-tube circuit which you will see in all testers with some variations. A number of the later strong state testers had the identical circuit. Due to this ‘normal’ circuit, every tester is an efficient one.
  • Future Tube life indication. The ‘English’ studying with a lot of the testers. Some Laboratory fashions have further assessments.
  • Case is rugged and enormous, leaving us right now loads of room for upgrades
  • Wood case is extraordinarily rugged. Deck plate is properly engraved and strong.
  • Fuel Take a look at. That is performed with a typical take a look at circuit, by placing a really excessive sequence resistor within the grid. The concept is, that tube fuel provides grid present, and this may generate a small voltage over this resistor. The small voltage will add to the DC bias voltage, and alter the bias of the tube. This modification has all the time it is limits it doesn’t matter what causes it. So regardless whether it is fuel if leakage, we all the time name it ‘fuel’ when you’ve a Hickok.
  • Noise take a look at. This appear a pleasant methodology, although I need to admit by no means tried it. It’s important to join am AM radio receiver antenna to the noise take a look at output, and if there’s any noise, this may give loud crack sounds on the radio.

Not a function of all Hickok testers:

  • Electrical security. The deck plate is just not grounded. This has benefits and downsides. Higher can be if it was not made from steel.
  • Present plate present.
  • Take a look at at normal situations for a particular tube
  • Take a look at twin tubes with simply the flip of 1 change.


Micromho take a look at

Let me let you know what that’s. Someone invented the unit ‘Mho’ as a reverse worth of ‘Ohm’. That by itself makes me really feel humorous about it. In Europe they did not need the phrase Mho, so known as it Siemens. The ridiculous factor is now that we will name a resistor of 10 Ohms additionally 0.1Mho or 0.1 Siemens. The concept was to explain the conductivity (conductivity is the alternative of resistance) However really all passive elements have solely resistance in my wholesome opinion.

Now tubes are energetic elements. The output present is regulated by the enter voltage. So these attempt to conduct. Their habits is finest written down as milliampere per Volt. So you alter the grid voltage 1Volt, and the output present modifications 5mA, and we are saying the tube has 5mA per Volt. (5 mA/V). Right here we go…. that equals 5000 micromho. As a result of Ohm is Volt / Ampere, and Mho = 1/ Ohm. What a ineffective mess!

Anyway this can’t be modified anymore, identical as some international locations will use miles and gallons, irrespective of how unlogical it. You have to see the usage of micromho in that gentle. Anyway, this explains why USA testers have micromho on it, and plenty of USA datasheets too, whereas European testers all the time use mA/V.

To make it a bit extra complicated, typically however not all the time, the micromhos are known as transconductance and abbreviated as ‘Gm’ and the mA/V are known as ‘S’ for Siemens.

English take a look at

That is one other of these issues. English take a look at is utilized by the Hickok testers, and it’s a not so great way attempting to say you’re testing the tube below (an unspecified) load situation. The AVO firm within the UK in all probability made one of the best acknowledged sequence of testers, that examined the tube below load, Nevertheless, they specify precisely what load, and you may learn that on the meter, and make all settings your self.. So you may evaluate that with tube curves and datasheets. Other than that, they invented this red-green scale, the place the great/unhealthy result’s derived from the transconductance (datasheet !) values. So very intelligent, and really straight ahead. Within the USA that was known as ‘English’ testing.

This AVO methodology was patented, which was a serious strike. So Hickok needed to patent one thing else. They patented the ‘English’ take a look at methodology, which is the RED-GREEN scale you see on most of their testers. I investigated the take a look at outcomes of know to be good and know to be unhealthy tubes, and my conclusion is, it simply derives an excellent/unhealthy worth from the already know Gm worth. Identical precept as AVO, however they (must) do it in one other approach, in a really unusual approach, and in the long run the RESULT is identical as with AVO.

Take a look at outcomes: With a socket adapter, I simply measured the plate present of the tube, whereas turning the ‘ENGLISH’ dial, and guess what…. Nothing modifications! Solely the needle strikes once you flip the English dial.

So I can solely conclude, this modifications the sensitivity of the red-green meter, and nothing else.

Nonetheless the English take a look at is probably the most used, because it tells you ‘good or unhealthy’, and the setting of the English pot meter from the roll chart, is the information of the outdated tube exerts, put into the tester. Admitted is, the outcomes are very dependable, that is why I preserve my Hickoks, it doesn’t matter what. Some testers like TV7 have solely the English take a look at.



49-A

Will add photos later. That is an older sort of tester, in all probability already having the Hickok patent inside.



Hickok 531 (technician mannequin, giant case)

This is identical because the I-177, solely the 531 is the civil mannequin. It does not have the potted transformer, and anti fungus treating of the I-177. It’s a very outdated one, so before you purchase it ensure that it is not rusty inside. It’s a good tester although when you’ve an excellent one, although the final rule applies right here, if the case appears rotten, the within can be. The mains voltage meter you see with this one, is retrofitted. The usual method to alter the mains is through the primary meter.

CONCLUSION: Higher purchase am I-177



Hickok I-177

This was my first tube tester. I’ve two of these. I purchased the primary one in 1988 for 45 guilders (20 Euro) in the identical outdated electronics store, the place I purchased my stuff after I was a child. He had them piled up. (Radio Kwakkelstein in Vlaardingen). A few years later, tube hysteria took off, however he a single one left, that was damaged and he nonetheless needed 45 Euro for it. I took it for spare elements, however by no means wanted any. The factor was made to final for ever, and work with out upkeep within the humid and heat international locations the place the US military was saving the world from communism. So even should you discover a smelly outdated one, it could be good nonetheless. It assessments all tubes from earlier than the Noval tubes. For later tubes there’s an adapter equipment, which by itself is a priceless merchandise, since it’s a common socket adapter for any tube tester, not simply I-177 and never simply Hickok. The I-177 is a very incredible tester, as a result of it provides remarkably dependable outcomes on the great/unhealthy scale. What can be nice, it has solely two knobs to decide on tubes. As an alternative of 9 (!) with the later fashions. All of them want a calibration badly, if by no means performed earlier than. If this tester says the tube is ‘simply okay’ you’ll be able to wager it that’s simply what it’s. Most of all you get used to the studying once you take a look at the identical sort of tubes, and should you see a tube which is into pretty much as good as the opposite, you higher throw that tube away. ( or promote it on Ebay (ahem….)

Principally that is THE Hickok tester for the pre-noval tubes. The later mannequin was the TV7 , which may do additionally take a look at Noval tubes.

The I-177 has an fascinating approach it operates, and that is value a couple of strains right here. They use their well-known patented Hickok circuit, however within the I-177 they added a potentiometer which does noting else then change the meter sensitivity. The sign going to the meter has to go an attenuator potentiometer. That is the ‘L’ potentiometer. The results of that’s, you’ll be able to take a look at any tube in any respect, and have an accurate studying on the great/unhealthy scale when you realize the setting of that attenuator potentiometer. (After all they knew that at Hickok, and that is the ‘L’ worth within the handbook). Because the good/unhealthy readings are performed by measuring true, dynamic Gm, there’s additionally this specific place of that potentiometer the place the Gm (micro mho) scale is legitimate. This place is marked with ‘gm’ on the L Pot scale. So the great/unhealthy studying and micro mho studying is completed with the identical circuit.

Their patented Gm measuring circuit is one of the best of it is type so far as I do know. As a result of this patent all different producers needed to work with out it.

It assessments all recognized rectifiers. Additionally the massive triodes like 300B might be examined, and as we all know there aren’t many tube testers that may deal with this tube. Not even all later mannequin Hickoks can do a 300B. By experimenting with the settings I can now measure many unlisted tubes with it, like C3g and EM34. It is actually a really good tester, very a lot advisable. The circuit diagram is contained in the tester on a plastic plate. (Fungus proof….), and an Excel checklist with all take a look at knowledge I discovered within the web. These will all work in 100 years from now. They was low-cost, and regardless ineffective. Some begin to perceive how good they’re, and costs of these went up so much over the past years. The discount days are over, an excellent tube tester is dear it doesn’t matter what. I believe these are nonetheless an excellent purchase for the cash.

Right here is discover out settings for an giant measurement tube, like KT88 or so.

  1. Discover a tube with related pin out. (that all the time exists)
  2. Set the L pot to the center place and Gm Sensitivity to fifteen.000
  3. Set the Bias (R) pot for highest studying. Now rotate R clockwise, till you learn 90% of most, and that is the bias setting. Could also be take rather less when the fuse lamps signifies a number of present, and also you assume that is an excessive amount of. The calibration comes within the subsequent step.
  4. Discover the proper Gm Sensitivity knob setting, in order that the meter is properly within the inexperienced. (someplace)
  5. Regulate the L pot till the tube is within the place of the great / unhealthy scale the place it belongs. So that’s simply within the inexperienced for a reasonably used, ‘simply okay’ tube.
  6. Now L + R + Sensitivity is a set of knowledge that you will need to use in that mixture. This can be a comparatively excessive bias, which is hardest for the tube. I verified some Hickok settings, that is how they appear to do it.
  7. And that is it.
  8. Right here is the KT88 setting I discovered that approach.

A=8 B=5 Fil=6.3 L=70 R=42, Socket E, Gm change at 6000.

I’ve not but tried this for small tubes, like ECC83, however there was no want additionally. The handbook was full up to now.

CONCLUSION: The most effective of this tester is the great/unhealthy take a look at. It discovers any doubtlessly weak tube. Good purchase once you use pre-war tubes. It can provide the true Gm worth of the tubes, and good/unhealthy indication. It has no sockets for contemporary tubes. Use the MX949 adapter equipment, and you may take a look at any fashionable tube additionally. Make certain once you purchase the adapter equipment, you’ve the prolonged handbook with it, in any other case you solely have the adapter equipment, however not the settings for it. They’re all extraordinarily out of calibration, in order that must be performed for 100% positive, except the vendor did it already for you. (I’m sorry, we don’t provide calibration service).



Hickok 533A, 533B (technician mannequin, giant case)

The A-Model makes use of solely a 2.5V take a look at sign, which is simply too excessive for small sign tubes, and a few of these can’t be examined precisely or not examined in any respect. The B-Model offers with this downside, and has adjustable take a look at indicators beginning with 0,25V. Tubes that want decrease enter sign, are examined with decrease sign. The ranges are switched routinely once you change by the Gm scales. So 533B is far most well-liked over 533A, should you additionally need to take a look at the later sort of tubes.

Picture series about 533B here



Hickok 534A, 534B (technician mannequin, giant case)

The 534 is a 533 with a build-in multi meter. For all different info, check with the 533, additionally for the problem with the take a look at sign voltage. (So 534B is far most well-liked over 543A )

More information here



Hickok TV7 (technician mannequin, small case)

This one got here after the I-177, jogs my memory a little bit of the 600. It has only a few sockets. No direct studying of Gm in micromho. It has very straight ahead approach of working it. What is good, is the take a look at change and the short-circuit change are mixed, so that you go routinely by the brief take a look at, earlier than doing practical testing. Very fashionable tester. Switches inside are ceramic. Superb service documentation exists nonetheless right now, and it has properly organized calibration settings inside. So should you solely need to do an excellent/unhealthy take a look at with out figuring out what or why, that is your tester.

CONCLUSION: Drawback: Excessive market worth, low performance. Benefit: Compact dependable, simple to entry inside circuit . I regard it a critical shortcoming, it provides no tube parameter of any type. Simply ‘p.c’.

Ebay

Costs Seen

Public sale Nr

2010

NOS
660€



Hickok 600 (technician mannequin, small case)

This can be a simplified model of the 5xx sequence. They left away some take a look at choices like lifetime take a look at. It has decrease precision than the bigger laboratory testers, and there’s no method to calibrate it extra exact than what it was made for. Motive is, the Gm studying is completed with a selected setting of the English scale. As an illustration for the 3000mmho scale, you will need to set the English pot to the pink dot ‘3000’. Then learn on the 3000mmho scale. So this protects the vary change, the 5xx sequence has. The 600 has a pink dot painted on the English scale for every vary. Nevertheless, the 3000 dot is nearly firstly of the size, could also be solely 10…15 wire windings away from it. Once you attempt to set it exact, you’ll discover every winding of the wire wound the pot meter will give a change of the meter indication. So irrespective of how small the dot is, firstly or on the finish of the dot, you’ve two totally different readings. Evidently, the place of that dot is hypercritical. It means you rely upon the unique manufacturing facility precision, and you haven’t any sensible method to make the tester any higher than that. Nevertheless, the small measurement and easily method to function it, made it very fashionable. It kind if did what the not-so-critical technician wanted, and admittedly talking it nonetheless does so right now.




Hickok 600A

Hickok 600A (technician mannequin, small case)

I have no idea what the additional function of the 600A is in comparison with the 600. The tester you see right here, is my very own however I bought it in 2011. The benefit of those smaller ones is their weight and measurement. The one sensible drawback I see, is a few smaller accuracy, however you must know for your self what accuracy is a ‘should’ and what’s a ‘need’. Given the age and situation, an excellent 600A can measure inside 10…15% which is greater than you want for sensible use.

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The right way to use it, with photos. That is from my very own 600A:

1) Set knobs by roll chart, insert tube
2) Press Line test, adjust
3) Read tube test result. Right here for 12AT7 EHX new tube. This can be a sturdy one.

Hickok 605A (technician mannequin, small case)

This is identical because the 600, solely the 605A has a multi meter inside



Hickok 539A, 539B, 539C (laboratory mannequin)

The most important laboratory testers. For me, these all have one BIG drawback: the English scale is lacking. So the tester does not let you know if the tube is sweet or unhealthy. You are supposed to have the ability to inform this your self. The so known as benefit of the bias setting with it is personal voltmeter is just a advertising gimmick, as a result of the size is simply too tiny, and unprecise.the 539 sequence are simpler to calibrate than the 750 sequence, however a nicely calibrated 750 can be one thing very good.

Hickok 539A

Simply bought it from . Will likely be described intimately later. That is how he provided it on Ebay:

‘This tube tester is totally operational, all controls and roll chart work easily. The surface black Tolex overlaying does have nicks and tears however this will simply be
recovered. All three meters are totally practical
with easy motion’

Really that is the sort of description I can solely advise you to search for. No uncles, no pals who examined it. The vendor was the consumer himself, and he even pictured his tubes examined with this one. So I believed I used to be protected. Then after I acquired it I may not imagine my eyes. The Tolex was totally torn away by some type of fool. Here’s what I acquired. Pic1Pic2Pic3

Subsequent factor: ‘This tube tester is totally operational’ writes. Effectively, the Gm worth reads twice the vale appropriately. So it’s ineffective. He tells me this ‘should have occurred within the mail’. Apparently, he factors out already within the public sale textual content to simply accept no lack of accuracy that occurs within the mail. Now take a look at that… So he already ‘anticipated’ the tester to break within the mail. (You see what I imply?).

Now take a look at the Ebay image. This tells all of it, however I need to admit I did not discover whereas bidding. Right here you see a tube examined, and the meter is all in the proper nook. I did not suspect something but, as a result of with an excellent tube, it may be like that. Solely the issue is, it does so with ANY tube I attempt, even a damaged one. Press the take a look at button and the meter provides a minimal of 100% studying or extra, it doesn’t matter what tube, even with out a tube.

Thoughts you that is bought by an individual from Belgium, with over 900 optimistic feedbacks, and no unfavourable. Effectively, this tester was damaged as might be. I provided to present it again, and he writes: ‘No dialogue attainable’. Do not perceive me improper, that is no method to complain a couple of unhealthy deal right here in EBAY. I put this right here on the net website so you’ll be able to all see what seems to be regular for the time being. Please study from this, even folks with all optimistic suggestions do that.

So that is going to be my subsequent restoration venture. Then I’ll present right here intimately if there have been some other hidden defects on this tester, and what I needed to do to restore it. For the readers of this net web page, this was my studying expertise, and it occurred to me, although I actually tried to stop it.

Conclusion: This tester provides utterly ineffective readings, the case was wrecked up by a monkey, and the primary meter sticks.



Hickok 750

Each 750 I purchased, had good fundamental substance as I bought it. No critical injury, and solely labored by good technicians. Effectively nearly. One had a sticky roll chart, which should have pushed the proprietor loopy, ending up utilizing an enormous screw driver, violently pushing the wheel, till all of it broke down. However that was the entire mistreatment it bought, and I may repair that at nearly no value. I had an NOS roll chart, and digged up a brand new thumb wheel. It appears to me, the later roll charts are just too massive, and these roll not easy for that purpose. For making it an correct instrument for every day use, there was so much to do nonetheless.

The opposite 750 I’ve seems nearly unused, however that does not preserve the electronics from getting old.

The 750 is a refurbished 532, and Hickok tried to exchange the 539C by it. My opinion is, the 750 is likely one of the finest Hickoks there’s, and extra helpful than the over hyped 539C. Extra about this later.

What’s very nice with the 750, is has further to the classical two tube Gm take a look at, an adjustable DC voltage of 200V, 100mA. I discovered each my 750’s can’t provide full present and full voltage concurrently, in order that have to be how they’re. When exchanging the 83 rectifier for an 83V, most currents exceeds even 100mA, whereas the micromho readings do not get affected. Maybe I’ll change this later, however I believe that is going to take some alternate of different elements too. No less than I have to test this higher, and for the second I’ll go away it as is. The voltage possibility helps you to take a look at stabilizer tubes, however you are able to do additionally different issues with it, as you want. If you do not know how to try this, it is higher solely to check issues as indicated on the roll chart. In a while, I’ll present you repeat Funke W19 assessments with it.

The 750 differs from the smaller testes like 533 and 534 as a result of it really works with totally different AC take a look at indicators, as an alternative of a hard and fast sign. It has this in widespread with the 539C. This permits testing of tubes with very excessive acquire, so no overdrive will happen. This makes a 30.000 micromho scale attainable.

They put again within the load take a look at within the 750, which the 539C is lacking. I believe it was a mistake, to take away that with the 539C. The latter can solely measure transconductance, no load take a look at is completed. Additionally you’ll be able to’t evaluate the transconductance you measure with the 539C along with your tube ebook, as a result of the plate voltage of the 539C is simply too low, and easily improper for many tubes. Subsequent is, the roll chart knowledge of the 539C is decrease than for a brand new tube. That was performed to present you a approach to pick the unhealthy tubes, as a result of in the long run that is what folks need. So Hickok put a non-standard roll chart within the 539C, with decrease values than regular. In order that they printed the reject worth on the 539C roll chart, not the ‘new tube’ worth. (after all you 539C customers, you all know that… he he). This makes I do not just like the 539 a lot. To to cease the confusion, Hickok put again within the load take a look at within the 750, and likewise give normal tube knowledge on the 750 roll chart, identical as with older (regular) testers. That was an excellent resolution.

I by no means discovered any documentation about how this load (English) take a look at is actually performed. The phrase ‘English’ counsel the AVO methodology, like within the Mk1/ Mk2…4, and CT160. I’ll test that later, with an oscilloscope. The oldest tester I’ve, utilizing the AVO so known as ‘patented’ methodology, is… a German army tester that I estimate from 1938. For the second let’s belief Hickoks expertise, giving us the proper ‘English’ dial setting for every tube. Someone in Cleveland Ohio (the place this tester was made..) should have had an enormous cupboard full of fine and unhealthy tubes, and simply tried out the proper settings. The roll chart is the software program of the tester, so to say.

( I do know it was performed like this from the ebook of Harvey ‘Gizmo’ Rosenberg, who described the work of Julius Futterman. Earlier than the battle, Julius used to work for a corporation constructing tube testers, and tube producers would ship him all sort of tubes, to replace the roll charts)

Now go to the restoration page of this tester. There have been many issues to do…. Please word the repairs are for each my 750’s. So you could discover small variations within the photos.

WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE 750 AND WHAT IS NOT IN THE MANUAL:

1) FUNKE W19 simulation. Right here is one thing actually new. With the 750 it’s attainable to do the Funke W19 assessments along with your Hickok 750. All you want is the well-known Funke Blue ebook, which prices you about 30..50 Euro, and a replica of the cardboard set which is on Ebay for 15 Euro. The Funke W19 is extraordinarily common in Europe, a prime mannequin, however it’s utterly ignored within the English talking territories, besides Asia who love the W19 additionally. Now do not ask me why that’s, however that is the place we’re. The W19 is especially an Emission tester, and one of the best and (solely) one which deserves the identify. Take a look at outcomes are undisputable. This tester proves what an excellent Emission Tester can appear to be. It’s on the degree of the higher Hickoks, in phrases or reliability, accuracy and proper take a look at outcomes. So you probably have a Hickok 750 (or 539), read here is how to do

2) Ahead voltage of rectifier tubes. That is of specific use within the laboratory If you do not know a lot about tubes, and solely desire a fast end result, you must use the classical take a look at a by the roll chart.

Instance: The 80 rectifier to my expertise ought to have a ahead voltage of 25..40 Volts at 60mA to be good. The place 25V not often occurs, and above 45 the ‘unhealthy’ vary begins. Additionally word what it does at decrease filament voltage. A superb rectifier doesn’t considerably change it is ahead voltage should you accomplish that. Then again, if the ahead voltage is increased than regular, and also you set the filament voltage one click on increased, and the tube considerably improves by this, the tube is worn out. You’ll be able to attempt to ge these outcomes in-line with the classical take a look at as on the roll chart. To do that take a look at, simply arrange the tube from the roll chart first. Then set the ‘Adjustable Voltage’ to zero, and the take a look at know to place ‘H’ for prime. Flip the Vr-Mils change to mils, and slowly enhance the voltage till you see the milliamps go up. Test the ahead voltage, that is when Vf begins. Then go on till you’ve 60mA and browse the Vf now. Then do the opposite plate (change setting is on the roll chart). You will note that is very simple to do, and also you study so much in regards to the tubes.

3) Ahead voltage of Energy Zener diodes. Identical process as with tubes. Solely it’s a must to put together an adapter this. Take away the bottom from an outdated octal tube, and join two wires to plate and cathode. Take the connections for the VR105 tube. Be sure you do not reverse the Zener, and do not increase 100mA into a brief circuited Zener, that’s in all probability not so good for the tester. You can be stunned how unhealthy strong state zeners really are, they’ve excessive temperature drift, and unhealthy load regulation in comparison with tubes like VR150 or VR105.

4) Continuity tester. This one is from the handbook really, but it surely’s good one. You should utilize the 750 as a continuity tester, once you set the ‘shorts’ change for place 4. Then put two probes within the ‘grid’ and ‘plate’ connections. As a result of the tester has an remoted chassis, that is of no hazard. Then the neon lamp will burn, beneath 200K resistance. Good for checking switches, connectors, and so forth.

See Also



Hickok . TV2. Army (laboratory mannequin)

It may well take a look at all tubes below actual situations. It is available in the identical class as German Neuberger RPG375 tester, although the final is card tester, not change operated. TV2 is unpopular although, however I by no means had one right here, so I can’t say what’s the purpose. What’s unattractive (for me) a couple of TV2 is following: It’s a tube analyzer, not a tube tester. Now when you’ve an analyzer, you usually need to join a multi meter to it someplace, like measure the filament present with a digital meter, or one of many voltages. It usually comes all the way down to that after I use the RPG375. So a voltage take a look at level AND a detachable present bridge on all tube connections. Significantly THIS is why I take advantage of an analyzer like U61B or RPG375.

Subsequent factor is, you’ll be able to set the plate voltage and grid voltage properly by the information ebook, after which get a take a look at end result known as ‘P.c High quality’. No matter that’s imagined to be, that isn’t what to know. Once I should set precisely plate voltage, and grid voltage, I’m sorry, however then I need to see the plate voltage and Gm consequently, and extra some ‘High quality’ indication in p.c. Nonetheless for that I relatively have the red-green scale if the 750A or 600A. Then I do know what I’ve. So personally, I believe that is what makes TV2 a wierd factor.

It appears to me folks do not know what it is value, I’ve seen them go on Ebay in good situation for 200$. Additionally see folks ask 1800$ for it, which is unquestionably not what they’re value. When you’re ready to that a lot, you higher purchase a assured to be mint situation Neuberger RPG375 or Metrix U61B, and luxuriate in that tester for the remainder of your life. Engaged on Hickoks means they’re simple to entry inside, however the wire spaghetti makes you very drained. Precise failures are small, however exhausting to seek out. Whereas engaged on a Neuberger RPG375 is a pleasure. All inside elements are properly organized in a row, on steel sub chassis, with clear cabling. It makes you understand what a prime class product might be like if the makers simply need it. You’ll be able to restore a Neuberger RPG375 with an uncalibrated multi meter, and fundamental electronics information. You’ll be able to’t say that from a Hickok. (Nevertheless, this doesn’t apply for the older Neubergers, these are very exhausting to service as nicely. Nevertheless, the evaluate right here is between the TV2 and the RPG375.



Hickok . MX-1258/U Tube Socket Adapter

This Adapter Package was manufactured for the Navy Division-Bureau of Ships by the Vector Digital Co. of Los Angeles, California. It consists of 9 varieties of adapters, mounted inside an aluminum transit case roughly 6″ x 9″ x 2 1/2″ full with deal with. The adapters are secured inside the case via mounting clips. An addition clip for securing the instruction ebook is supplied within the case lid. Pin straighteners for the 7 and 9 pin miniature bases are completely mounted within the middle of the transit case.

The tube socket adapter equipment is meant to be used generally electronics testing on gear using electron tubes. The 9 adapters contained within the equipment present the power for testing circuit situations with virtually the entire generally used electron tubes.





Link to manufacturer


Capabilities in English (click on image)

KALIBR. Mannequin L3-3 from 1986

The L3-3 is the most recent mannequin, with silicon diodes, however all electronics is with tubes. The L3-2 is comparable, however has nonetheless tube rectifiers inside. The L3-3 is is likely one of the most superb testers I do know. Once I purchased mine in 2004, the tube tester market was not so over hyped as it’s now, and this tester was regarded unknown Russian stuff of little curiosity. Proper now, issues have modified. Understanding of this product has improved at the very least 15% over the past 15 years. (Sure, this implies what you assume it means:)

Who used outdated devices, containing energy electronics, will all know they want a restore typically. One thing breaks right here, one thing will get s faulty there, and it simply belongs to every day use of an outdated devices. One L3-3 I’ve is NOS, means it was by no means used earlier than. That isn’t all the time a bonus for outdated gear, as a result of usually which means, electrolytic capacitors are unhealthy. The opposite one was used fairly often, and it was formally calibrated yearly till 1999, which was the final calibration sticker on it. The NOS one stabilized completely after 100 hours, and the used one labored good proper out of the cargo field. All I had with mine, was a minor downside with a plastic cowl from the within detoriating. That I can substitute simply by a wood cowl. My L3 by no means wanted by no means any repairs in any respect. Solely service, like a faulty management lamp. All elements are nonetheless unique, even the tubes. To start with I used to be a bit frightened in regards to the tubes, however these are good, they usually keep good. These are tubes which might be simply in there, and I by no means take into consideration them. The rotation change for the leakage present has ceramic decks, and are all shiny like new.

Handbook, detailed pictures, schematic, calibration, and a lot more… Click here to go to the L3-3 Page.

EBAY BUYING ADVISE: Sadly the provision of recent, NOS, good high quality, L3-3 is low now, which attracts fraudulent sellers at Ebay. The issue is with Jap Europe, Ukraine, Slovenian, and so forth sellers. The issue is, folks prefer to go by the great appears, however an L3-3 ALWAYS appears good, additionally faulty ones look good. They promote merely these faulty testers, with some emergency repairs, a questionable panel meter, broken transformers or a cable burn inside. You’re the looser after they ship you this, since you’ve issues with big cargo value, once you need to ship it again. This isn’t good to say, however from these folks, it’s not actually advisable to purchase. So you’re typically higher of, shopping for the tester from near-by. Additionally, it’s a lot advisable to request a recognized tube, pictured within the take a look at mode, so you’ll be able to see the factor works. After they already write on Ebay to not be chargeable for cargo issues, this may be a lure, to ship you a broken tester. I really feel sorry to say this, as a result of there are positive many sincere sellers too. Nevertheless, specifically since you could not discover a hidden defect so rapidly, and since again cargo could be very costly, ensure you purchase an ideal tester, and likewise make clear the small print for again cargo value, id wanted. It is simply not enjoyable getting ship a damaged tester, and having to pay again cargo value. It is very a lot suggested to purchase this from a 100% optimistic suggestions vendor solely. Overlook 99%. Myself, all the time when one thing unusual occurs it was with these 99% sellers. In spite of everything there are sufficient provided on Ebay. Simply wait till a100% optimistic vendor presents one. Such an individual has a repute to unfastened, so you’re a lot safer. Read here also. Not advisable sellers: Watch out with a purchaser from Budapest with tons of different gear, he opens new accounts incessantly on Ebay. Names seen earlier than: hickoks, sunnygirl505.

CONCLUSION: Amongst the top-ten testers. Finest purchase ever for the cash. It will get a well-deserved:

Ebay

costs seen:

Public sale Nr:

2012

NOS
no playing cards
605€

110981376833

2010

NOS
no playing cards
399€

2010

NOS
All full
430€

2007

Incomplete
99€

2007

Faulty
250€

2005

NOS 430€
(my tester)



KALIBR. Chinese language Model

These photos had been ship to me by electronic mail, the sender says this tester is usually utilized in China. I’ve by no means seen this model. Should you look rigorously, you’ll be able to see on the take a look at card is a meter print, identical as with the Funke. It has two mains transformers. From the totally different {hardware} and totally different switches on the deck, this appears a particular mannequin. however it may be simply acknowledged the manufacturing facility is identical. It may need been a good suggestion so as to add this scale to the L3-3 playing cards.



Ebay costs seen:

2013: Good: 1300€
2006: Good: 900€
2006: Faulty: 350€

Firm web site they appear to be hiding it. If any person can discover it, let me know, so I can hyperlink it right here

METRIX-U61B / or U61 B

Someway, this one does the identical because the RPG375, however is offers with the unfavourable factors the RPG375 has. The Metrix U61B has no playing cards however many switches.
So it’s extra common, and I discover it faster to make use of.
Additionally the interior voltages are electronically stabilized, so no readjusting of plate voltage when a tube attracts extra present. Additionally it has connections on the entrance plate for digital devices.

Vacuum high quality might be measured with tube testers like this excellent.
For higher measurements, this stunning instrument
has a particular connection to measure grid present straight, by connecting a nano-ampere meter to the tester. An excellent function is the tube protector circuit. When the plate present meter is greater than 25% above the utmost of the meter, the plate present will shut down, and you want to reset it. That is performed with a really particular, programmable present delicate relay. So at every meter setting, it has one other sensitivity. One other safety is when a tube has a brief circuit, this may disconnect the entire tester from the mains, and a pink indicator pin comes out of the entrance panel, that you want to press again in, to modify on the tester once more. This can be a grasp piece. I take advantage of it for the very costly and delicate tubes, like ECC803S and so forth., due to the plate present safety circuit. Additionally nicely fitted to testing giant numbers of tubes, Due to the safety circuits. So with this tester you’ll be able to let a tube run heat and go away, and do one thing else in the meantime. When the tube begins to attract an excessive amount of present, whilst you do not see it, the tester will shut down with a loud “clack”. It occurs usually with KT88. So you may hear that and might test it.

In a couple of phrases: Prime class tester, when you find yourself not too lazy to restore typically one thing. I had a couple of small repairs with mine, just a few small capacitors had been unhealthy. Very handy, and really versatile to make use of. Swap numbering is in response to the datasheets, and even unknown tubes you are able to do i if you realize the tester higher.

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Ebay costs

2005: untested 35€ (mine!)
2005 : Mint condition: 229€

Neuberger RPG237 from 1938

Front plateLeakage-tests-buttons.

Beautiful construct tester, with prime quality switches and exact meters. The Neuberger RPG 237 was a typical for it is time.
It’s an AC Tester, sweeping a tube by the WHOLE RANGE tube curves whereas testing it.
So getting ’20mA’
as take a look at end result, means it sweeped the tube by the whole set of tube curves, at totally different plate voltages and totally different grid voltages,
and it produced 20mA as a median worth.
Suppose you measure a tube that should give 20mA at regular settings. The RPG237 then provides an excellent impression of the lifetime left within the tube, as a result of if the tube can do the 20mA, however can’t do the height present anymore, you’ll get a decrease studying than 20mA, which is true!

This instrument is a genius.
Plate voltage, display grid and management grid might be individually set. With the differential of two measurements this permits to find out transconductance (mA/V), acquire and Rp. With twin tubes you will get the results of every tube, simply by the flip of change, additionally for rectifiers. It may well take a look at for: vacuum
leakage, brief circuits in any respect electrodes, measure resistors and capacitors. Other than tubes, it has some multi meter capabilities, additionally for testing capacitors. I attempted a couple of Mundorf precision capacitors, and all I can say, it indicated the values precisely as printed on the capacitors. Wow!

It is not within the handbook, however since it may measure e capacitance,
I suppose
it ought to be capable of measure grid capacitance as nicely.
Only a matter of connecting the whole lot the proper approach.

What I do must say right here, this measurement methodology is usually inaccurate. Even the so known as ‘prime class’ AVO’s give nothing however a tough estimation. Nevertheless…. not with this tester! Fascinating is that though there’s little electronics inside,
it produces correct outcomes with tubes like ECC81 or related. I needed to join these externally, as a result of it has no sockets for these. When evaluating the outcomes on the L3-3, I can say this RPG237 nonetheless works tremendous.
So for example when a tube has a real and proper 10mA on the L3-3,
this outdated and unrestored RPG237 gave additionally that worth inside 15%.
Sure, actually superb!
Additionally ECC83 it measures good, which is a really troublesome tube due to excessive Rp. I have to look deeper within the idea of
this tester,
and perceive why it really works so dependable after nearly 70(!) years unserviced situation.

In a couple of phrases: Nonetheless good tremendous after 70 years….. AMAZING. It provides right and dependable outcomes, additionally to fashionable and troublesome tubes like E88CC. The drawback it has no fashionable sockets, however you’ll be able to clear up that simply by connecting a Hickok adapter equipment MX949 to it, and also you’re performed.




Testing EF804S


Testing 211 tube

Ebay costs seen:

2005: Superb one: 850€
2007 Superb one: 1120€
2008. Superb one 1509€ (link)
2011. Superb one 2500€ (link)

Neuberger RPG375 from 1965

Their last mannequin, and largest tube tester they ever made. The Neuberger firm nonetheless exists. This can be a parametric tester. Can measure vacuum, and present all parameters on the identical time. Dynamic assessments are made as distinction of two measurements. I’ve this Neuberger 375 from the widow of the primary proprietor, and it was mentioned he by no means used it. The tester appeared totally unused certainly.

The meters are excellent. They’ve sturdy damping, and never electrostatic like discovered with some Hickoks.

All voltages + currents
might be measured on the identical time. Some meters have extra capabilities.
Connections are on the entrance for exterior devices, however the build-in devices look like unimaginable exact, so you do not want any exterior devices. That is no fast tester for radio outlets or TV Restore males. This can be a full featured laboratory instrument.
It’s card-based, however no want for utilizing playing cards. Once you need you are able to do all settings by hand, and there are normal banana connectors to all tube pins, and likewise present hyperlinks to every tube pin. So that you need to take a look at for example the leakage present along with your digital meter? No downside, take out the hyperlink, and put the meter in.

If you understand how to do it, you too can faucet the plate voltages and different voltages, use it as a a number of energy provide for lab experiments, with all voltages and currents adjustable, and with meters. So you’ve a 500V 100mA energy provide too, and connections are merely on the primary plug-in board, prime left. (see the image I used). The plate voltage is tube rectified with Telefunken tubes. These give pure safety in opposition to brief circuit. So a brief circuit won’t blow the fuse or the tube below take a look at, however makes use of the rectifier tubes as the present limiter.

I’d say, with this tester you’ll be able to take a look at nearly any tube. I’ve examined the 211 with it, which is a excessive voltage tube, however the tube curves do go all the way down to 500V, and at these factors I examined some new 211, and the information from the curves reproduces very good at this tester. (See pictures here)

Additionally the 6C33 might be examined once you use an additional socket, identical methodology as with the 211 tube. So that you simply decide the tube connections from the primary panel with regular banana plugs. So there’s a (banana plug) connector for ‘plate’, two for ‘filament’ and so forth and so forth. So far as I do know, there is no such thing as a different tube tester that may provide the filament present for the 6C33.

It options the very good Neuberger Rotational change, earlier than you take a look at a tube, you are able to do leakage or shorts. This change works the identical because the Funke W19 or W20.

Inside you discover prime class devices, best resistors and electronics, extraordinarily nicely made, stunning switches and controls. It’s the absolute winner by way of good building, no different product comes close to. Observe the deck has no German on English phrases, solely symbols. So any nation, you should utilize it.

In a couple of phrases: A prime laboratory product, when you’ve the muscle mass to hold it. Drawback is the unstabilized voltages, and older kind sockets aren’t out there on this tester. Nevertheless, it is likely one of the few (or solely?) classic testers that may do adjustable 500V @ 100mA. It may well take a look at all tubes from tiny fragile to massive and heavy. The cardboard system makes it totally common, and SAFE. So that you when have a take a look at card, you can not do a lot improper. If you wish to take a look at a 50Watt tube at 50 Watt, that is your tester. Apart from it’s a good work bench adjustable energy provide, with handy banana sockets for all voltages, and every with it is personal meter. Simply make the proper card for this your self! Costs seen of 1500€ are totally justified, I anticipate extra worth raises for this mega piece of {hardware}.





Tektronics 576 Curve Tracer System.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 570 was the primary curve tracer by Tektronix, adopted by the later 576. Although the 576 is just not actually made to check tubes, you take a look at tubes with it, once you construct a take a look at fixture for it, and also you want an exterior energy provide for the heater.

There’s MX949 Unit, initially construct as accent for the Hickok I-177 tube tester. You’ll be able to re-build this unit conveniently as a take a look at fixture for the Tektronics 576. Alternatively you should utilize most different outdated tube testers, even use the roll chart of it, a lot of the wiring, and the heater transformer.

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Right here is the schematic of the TV11.

Superior Devices TV10

This can be a good Emission Tester. It appears like an vintage piece, however it’s higher than might different ‘later’ varieties. Tube testes of this type have some benefits and a few disadvantages. Many Emission Testers had been made and are nonetheless round. Once you purchase a type of, you’ll be able to have one which is good and nice to make use of, or have one that’s inconvenient, and solely ‘so so’ with the outcomes you get from it.

The benefit is simple of operation, low value, a fantastic many had been made, and never a lot might be damaged inside. When shopping for an emission tester, and also you need one that’s helpful, take note of this:

  1. You want a mains adapter knob, so you’ll be able to calibrate it for the proper mains voltage earlier than making a measurement. You will note that with an emission tester, already smallest modifications on the mains voltage give an enormous studying distinction. Take a Variac and check out it! So if this knob is lacking, you’ve a tester that the makers didn’t care a lot about precision.
  2. Make certain the change panel within the center has the straightforward flip switches as with this one. Those with the miniature slide switches just like the Lafayette and newer Eico are a ache to make use of. It’s important to set the switches earlier than every measurement, and for the leakage and shorts take a look at you want to take a look at every tube pin one after the other, by sliding up and down every miniature change, which is actually nasty to do. So should you can rapidly flip them as with this one right here, it is what you want.
  3. A tester with a construct in roll chart is best than one with a handbook. A easy roll chart, you give a throw and it rolls alongside a couple of turns by itself. They idiot you on Ebay with that. When you want to push the roll chart, and it strikes just one inch at a time… beware it’s a very lengthy roll of paper! That is exhausting to repair, and in the long run the paper will tear and break. You might want a brand new NOS paper roll, and that is actually exhausting to get.
  4. The leakage take a look at should accurately point out leakage with the depth of the lamp. That’s performed by defining a sure leakage the place the lams begins to burn. So the start of the glow (faint gentle) have to be at 300…400k Ohms leakage, nothing else. When the lamp solely signifies shorts, that is ineffective. Outdated tubes don’t have any shorts, however they do have leakage. To check that, simply stick in a 400k resistor at two random pins, after which attempt to discover that leakage.
  5. The transformer should not be underrated. If the tester you need to purchase could be very tiny and skinny, the transformer might be underrated. Why does matter? It means you can not constantly take a look at the tubes, and such a tester can have a ‘take a look at’ button. This TV10 has no such ‘Take a look at’ button. It has a take a look at change. So the TV10 can take a look at a tube constantly, and warmth it up whereas doing so, for example for 10 minutes if you’d like it.
  6. Many Emission Testers give completely unreliable outcomes, let unhealthy tubes go, and don’t point out leakage correctly. Confirm that with tubes that you realize to have some particular defects.
  7. Make certain it has sufficient outdated kind sockets.

TV10 has the identical schematic, solely TV11 has a strong state diode and an output for noise assessments.

The later TV11 works the identical, but it surely has strong state rectifiers for the mains calibration, whereas TV10 has a tube inside for that. Some later TV10 have Selenium cells construct into the meter, making it a pre-version of the TV11. It’s endorsed to test all resistors, and substitute them with new ones when deviation is greater than 5%.

Conclusion: An excellent merchandise, this tester will do the entire above. I used to be amazed to see it provides CORRECT readings for an excellent 300B and recognized to be weak 300B. Truthfully… only a few testers can try this, irrespective of how costly. Most Hickoks do not even have 300B on the roll chart, as a result of they can not take a look at them. FOUR STARS *****

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8) Tube testers assortment – DIGITAL PART.

4) Digital Testers

I personal a couple of digital testers myself, and it’s a class for themself. You’ll want to make the proper concerns, earlier than determine for or in opposition to a digital tester. Let me checklist up a few of the benefits and downsides right here.

1) The so known as inter-electrode isolation testing, wants many switches inside, and never simply any change, however ideally a ceramic change, as discovered contained in the Russian L3-3. With digital testers, that is all the time a weak spot. Both the various hand operated switches are easy unnoticed, or if performed with relays, there are merely not sufficient of these inside. Really I do know of no digital tester that may do inter electrode testing between all pins of any tube. Some can do cathode to heater leakage, and that is it. Measuring grid present in uA, some can do, however measuring grid leakage in Mega Ohms relative to all different pins, that’s lacking with all digital testers. The attractive approach that is performed with the AVO Testers, differentiating even between sizzling an chilly situation is an instance of mature product design. Alone the analog circuit that’s behind this may be extraordinarily exhausting to breed digital, as it really works with a excessive AC Voltage + very excessive resistor in sequence. That is is the final word approach that may even detect corona leakage. Observe, the inter-electrode isolation testing will get extra vital for the long run. We will probably be dealing extra usually with older historic tubes. I imply every decade, the common age of these will probably be 10 years extra, and time will make isolation much less good. Additionally, we will probably be dealing extra with new made tubes. The error fee with inter-electrode failures, is far increased as with historic tubes. Chinese language tubes have a unhealthy repute for this. Inter-electrode resistance could be very excessive generally, however many failures. So once you take a look at 100 Chinese language KT88, you’ve a fairly good change to seek out a couple of unhealthy ones. These in all probability work in an amplifier, however they do have some tolerance errors. Whereas with Russian tubes the error fee is decrease, however typically the leakage by itself is increased, and the development for newer manufacturing is just not good. So both approach, this perform will get extra vital. With the AVO testers, as a result of very smart take a look at circuit, even electron emission of the heater itself with out plate voltage might be measured this fashion. Although this isn’t described within the AVO handbook as a measurement, it’s mentioned at the very least at which settings that is indicated. Actual specialists will examine this feature, and study to estimate it. It’s an phantasm to seek out this ever in a digital tester.

2) Tube sockets. Take a look on the take a look at deck of a AVO Mk1/ Mk2…4, and you’ve got a sense of what attainable sockets one might have. The take a look at ebook of AVO is stuffed with tons of of pages take a look at settings in small printing. The worth of this database is enormously. The database of the digital Amplitrex AT1000 would evaluate to only 6 pages of the AVO handbook (and it has tons of.). And even that restricted database fills the interior digital reminiscence till it turns into too full. Apart from it has no full risk to hook up with any tube pin. So despite the fact that the tester has an octal socket, it can’t take a look at the entire tubes. Not so with AVO or Funke. Simply take any tube -whatever- and you’ve got the socket, you’ll be able to join it any approach you want, and you’ve got the settings within the ebook. This uncompromisingly completeness is an phantasm with new made testers, so far as I write this textual content right now.

3) Overload / Shorts safety. A digital tester might be simply destroyed once you ignore the handbook, or once you insert shorted tubes. With an excellent analog tester that turns into very exhausting to do, however after all it’s attainable as nicely. An issue with most digital testers is the failing shorts take a look at for ALL terminals. So there’s a software program managed present limiter on the anode circuit, however this doesn’t assist a lot when the tube anode is shorted to the management grid, as software program is simply too sluggish for that. So when that occurs, and the anode is at 700 Volts, this may blow up the management grid circuit. And as soon as that’s broken, this will likely blow up the anode voltage circuit as nicely. Here’s what can occur: I as soon as had a 6922 tube from Electro Harmonix, and it had all electrodes shorted to one another. There was a tremendous steel wire wrapped from every pin to the opposite. Additionally they as soon as ship me a 6SN7 with the socket rotated one place. Do not ask me how such issues can occur in manufacturing, as a result of such a tube ought to fail all assessments. However I do know they ship such tubes out to me. This offers the craziest shorts. The 6922 tube burned just one resistor of my L3-3 analog tester, however I’m fairly positive such a tube destroys the AT1000 or SOFIA digital tester instantaneously. The 6SN7 with the rotated socket gave no response of any type within the L3-3, so it survived that assault with none injury.

4) {Hardware} and Software program getting old. A selected digital tester is all the time good for the second, however sooner as you anticipate, the expertise will get outdated, and repairs might turn into nasty or not possible. I’m fairly positive, you’ll be able to nonetheless purchase the semiconductors inside, once we speak about transistors or most ICs. However the first model single chip microprocessors of the AT1000 is already out of date. So that you higher to not get an issue with that half. If the tester wants set up of a program, in your PC, Microsoft all the time tries to make your outdated software program out of date. So you purchase now a digital tester, and the,maker says it is going to set up below ‘all variations’ of Home windows? How can they assure the long run Home windows variations will set up the software program? Actuality is, in 10 years you’ll be able to solely run it on vintage Home windows pc, as a result of ‘Windows25’ or regardless of the model 10 years later, will refuse older applications to put in. We’ve that now with the Sofia digital tester, which {hardware} and software program COULD run below Home windows, however simply Microsoft doesn’t permit this feature. This can’t be mentioned usually sufficient. Older variations of the AT1000, have an RS232 port solely, and an out of date microprocessor inside. Don’t assume any RS232 Card will set up on any PC. It does not. RS232 is ‘outdated’ and there’s little help. The RS232 port hassle I had with Home windows 7, was a primary style of the long run points. Observe, the AT1000 software program is written in digital fundamental, which is all the time some model’, and I can guarantee you, the model is as outdated as might be. So if some day, the Microsoft Gods determine you want model ‘xy’ to be allowed to put in it on Home windows 25, the sport might be over to your AT1000. Since I’ve seen this taking place up to now all the time, and with the whole lot, for me that is one thing that’s going to occur. The strongest weapon after all is sweet software program help. Effectively, for you can learn that half of my experience here.

5) Voltage, Present. Make certain, the digital tester can do the identical as an excellent analog tester. Can it warmth 20Volt tubes? Can it do -150V on the grid? Can it provide 500V plate? How in regards to the display? Can it do 250mA plate present? Can it warmth energy tubes with 50 Watt? Can it measure 0.5uA leakage? Can it measure 10 Mega Ohms leakage resistance (Are you positive??). Is the leakage examined below excessive voltage? In each instructions, as will naturally happen once you take a look at with AC? Can it take a look at any heavy rectifier below actual load situations? Can it additionally take a look at the 1mA rectifier of your radio detector circuit? Can it take a look at Voltage regulator tubes? Can it pentodes triode-connected? Can it take a look at the oscillator-mixer tube of your radio? Can it take a look at magic eyes? I hope I forgot nothing right here. WIth an excellent analog tester, the reply is sure to all of these questions.

6) Good-bad indication. To this point I see all digital testers with this shortcoming, they don’t let you know when a tube is unhealthy. That’s as a result of the writers of the software program, both have no idea take a look at for that, or don’t have the time and sources to check 1000’s of recognized to be good and know to be unhealthy tubes. You do get a exact variety of transconductance. You then say, tremendous, however is the tube good or unhealthy? You continue to do not know. That is the place the great outdated Funke W19 is my prime favourite, however positive additionally the Hickoks. In comparison with the Hickok Nevertheless, the Funke W19 makes use of FULL plate dissipation, which supplies me a greater feeling. So all digital testers appear to be lacking this #1 function of a tube tester. They don’t let you know if the tube is sweet or unhealthy.

7) Precision. After all digital testers are the winner right here. Be mindful although need is a necessity and what’s a need. So that you need 0.5% precision, however do you want it? You’ll be able to solely reply that for your self. For me, what I usually want are all different factors above, and precision is just wanted relative. So should you have to match a pair, it does not matter a lot if that’s performed on a +15% accuracy tester. So long as you learn the needle nicely, the matching of 1 tube to the opposite continues to be 1% or so.

Conclusion: The nice outdated analog testers have an excellent justification to exists nonetheless right now. After all digital testes are one thing very good.

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AMPLITREX AT1000

Amplitrex AT1000 tube testerHaving the AMPLITREX AT1000 is having one of the best we will get, and technologic benefit is what makes our firm enticing for purchasers. So we all the time use finest devices we will purchase. If not, we 100% restore an outdated one. (see Restoration report about Funke W19 we use, and two ‘Kali br L3-3’ below tube testers) : This testers is, proper as I say, ‘one of the best we will purchase’, although I believe it’s not an excellent tester by itself. It does what I need now, after I’ve discovered to work round it is many points and compromises. It can’t beat my 1995 Sofia tester in any approach.

RISKS. So far as I recall, the Amplitrex AT1000 has been launched in 2004. I waited some time shopping for it, simply to ensure I did not purchase early variations of it. Although shopping for the later variations, I discovered a number of points myself.

VALUE. The merchandise is dear, and to have it preserve the worth, the producer ought to produce software program updates on a daily base. My disappointment right here could be very giant. It has a number of points, that will be simple to repair in software program, however I am unable to do that myself after all. I’m very sad about this. So the worth probably will go down sooner or later, as compatibility points might come up with increased home windows variations. The tester is WINDOWS ONLY, and you do not have the code, and you do not know what that is doing. So if the Microsoft Gods -say within the 12 months 2020 will determine, you want this or that upgraded software program model with ‘Windows11’, and you do not have it, you’ll be able to’t set up this system on a new PC. This can be a very critical threat, and it’s simply this what occurred with the digital SOFIA tester from the 1990’s. That is in sharp distinction with a few of the excellent classic testers that are extra like an funding, than one thing you want to write off some day sooner or later. So preserve this in thoughts extraordinarily nicely. Paying 2500 Euro for a mint high quality AVO Mk4, means you in all probability can get that again 20 years later. The identical quantity invested in an AT1000, you want to write that off someday.

SOCKETS. I can’t say I did not know, so this isn’t a criticism, however the tester has not sufficient sockets. I’ve a small assortment of adapter sockets made myself. It makes use of 3 times an Octal base, simply because there aren’t sufficient relays inside to work with one socket solely. The tester WILL NOT change the heater wires, so the heater is soldered on the socket at a hard and fast place. For any tube with the warmers at one other place, you want to make adapters. So I needed to make an adapter to check the 5Z3 rectifier, which is nothing however an 5U4G with a UX4 base. Nevertheless, the UX4 base of the tester is soldered to the DC provide, whereas the rectifier circuit of this tester is AC heated. So there you go once more, ANOTHER socket adapter I needed to construct. Superb however true… I’ve discovered a software program method to take a look at 4 pin rectifiers on the UX4 base of the tester, so now I do not want that silly adapter anymore. Please perceive I can’t hand this out. I believe it is the producer’s work to offer this to you. I understand they might not understand how to do that, however actually that is their duty to offer options, not mine.

First impression. I unpacked the unit, plugged within the mains cable and switched it on. Then what occurred, is what all of us secretly hope with every bit of recent gear. I wanted no handbook and I may perceive it ‘by doing’. I switched on the Amplitrex, and the big show lights up and comes up with a digital ‘roll chart’. Effectively, we have now seen that earlier than as paper model. So I scroll it all the way down to 6SN7, as a result of I had one on my desk. I chosen it, and the tester mentioned: ‘put the tube in Socket E, and press ‘Enter’. I did so, and the automated take a look at started earlier than I knew it. I spotted I ought to have learn the handbook, however nothing went improper, and after some info handed by on the show, the tester stopped with an inventory of digital take a look at outcomes. So plate present, Transconductance, leakage, the whole lot. I used to be so stunned having this end result out of the field. Unbelievable! I took out the tube and in contrast the end result with one in every of my L3-3 which might be reference testers. All readings are similar. :))

Supplies. The ‘feeling’ of the tester is a lot better than it appears on the image. The case is superb high quality and the deck plate is thick and heavy materials, and the (few) sockets are good high quality. Once I see how a few of the Hickoks take care of so known as ‘specialists’ have labored with them, this very rugged case for the Amplitrex is an excellent concept!

Tube sockets. It have to be mentioned, the 9pin socket is a too tight and it broken tube pins of some costly ECC88. So that you plug in a tube a NOS tube a couple of instances, and the pins look used already. For the remaining, tube sockets are tremendous, and even the (harmful) steel rivets of the Chinese language UX4 sockets have been rigorously insulated. Good job. There aren’t so many various tube sockets within the tester’s deck, however honest sufficient, I knew that earlier than shopping for.

Noise. Sorry, the cooler fan is unquestionably too loud.

WARNING. The Grid voltage is measured improper for Instantly Heated Tubes.Half of the filament voltage is added to the grid, and it was not compensated within the software program. (Although this may have been very simple to do). So when the tester attracts a ‘-1Volt’ line for a 300B, it’s in actuality the -3,5 Volt line. Identical error is made with the conventional ‘Tube Take a look at’ web page it produces. With tubes of excessive grid voltage that is no downside, however for tubes with low grid voltage this can be a major problem, since it might have the tubes look ‘unhealthy’ whereas in truth they’re wonderful. As an illustration RE134 has 4Volts filament, and it is a excessive acquire tube. So 2 Volts error on the grid, turns an excellent tube into a nasty one.

Calibration: hey do have calibration factors inside, however there are a number of methods to test the voltages from the surface, so you’ll be able to frequently confirm that. Additionally since we use three amplitrex we will evaluate one with the opposite. Thoughts you, the grid voltage has an inside sequence resistor inside, so you’ll be able to solely confirm the grid voltage with a tube volt meter, or some other very excessive impedance digital meter. Or, faucet it from the within, earlier than the sequence resistor.

Conclusion for Stand alone mode: When you’re not so technical, and simply want some fast good/unhealthy outcomes, the stand alone mode is what you want, and do not even take into consideration pc management. Nevertheless, this tester doesn’t let you know when a tube is sweet or unhealthy. This may be actual downside for non-experts, and also you MAY need to desire an excellent outdated Hickok with a red-green scale. So with a Hickok the red-green scale is actually dependable, I can let you know so. The Amplitrex says one thing about Emission in p.c, and Gm in p.c, Nevertheless, it’s not testing Emission in any respect, however plate present and simply calls that emission. Which is a mistake within the software program. Moreover 20% beneath common Gm is just not so unhealthy so long as the tube heats up quick, and plate present is robust. Vice versa for low plate present. It’s no downside when Gm is above common and warmth up is quick. Some factory-new tubes might be that approach. With some understanding of tubes, the stand alone mode is an excellent one. Computerized leakage take a look at and grid present assessments are dependable, and change off the tester in case you are attempting to check a tube that could be a downside maybe for the tester itself. In the long run you’ve related outcomes as with the L3-3, however with out all of the buttons and knobs and playing cards and information you want for the L3-3. Right here is the benefit of the Amplitrex. It fills an enormous hole on the tube tester market.

Conclusion for Pc management mode: That is really why I purchased it. Nevertheless, this perform is tougher to make use of, and never very self explaining. A downside for non-USA customers is, that you simply MUST set your PC to USA Area, or the software program will make errors and/or crash. So used a devoted PC for this and set it to USA Area. It’s troublesome to use database applications like Open Workplace (or worse: Excel), since issues come up the place comma’s and are utilized in Europe, the place the USA makes use of semicolons and vice versa. Should you ignore this, you mess up the tube knowledge tables, and the software program will stall, or produce bizarre errors whereas drawing tube curves. So to stop this, I take advantage of now a devoted PC, which I set to ‘USA’ area.

We’ve now two AT1000 in use, right here at Jacmusic. One we have now within the Emission Labs manufacturing facility, and a fourth is in use at our USA tubes supplier.

FINAL CONCLUSION: Let me say it like this, after I acquired my Amplitrex, I made a decision to order two extra. I believe that tells all of it. Extraordinarily unfavourable is for me the problem with the grid voltage error (See above textual content). This merchandise was introduced as much as Amplitrex, and actually a fast software program restore needs to be a bit of cake. I heard from one other consumer, there’s solely a patch with the information tables, which isn’t regarded an honest software program restore my myself. It’s regarded such by Amplitrex, so we have now one other opinion about this. Although this partial options exists, I used to be by no means knowledgeable about it by Amplitrex within the type of an replace, or consumer’s letter.

Sorry, however It can’t have a excessive score due to the various software program points. Test this web page for ‘RoeTest‘ which is analogous just like the AMPLITREX, but it surely has 5 stars. .

DETAILED TEST REPORT


Above photos present some variations. As you’ll be able to see the case is all the time individually made.

‘ROETEST’ KIT BY HELMUT WAIGEL, GERMANY.

Initially listed as a DIY Product, I’ve eliminated it from this class, and put in below skilled merchandise, proper right here. This a KIT model. What’s supplied by the maker, is all exhausting to get {hardware}, such because the mains transformer, pre-programmed microchip, the entrance plate, empty printed circuit boards, and so forth. All the remaining, like regular capacitors, resistors, switches and so forth you purchase your self the place you want.

‘RoeTest’ is German for ‘tube-test’. This very good product, is privately made by Helmut Weigl in Germany. That is digital tube tester, probably the most fascinating one I do know. This can be a equipment, so it’s a must to construct all of it by your self. What you see right here, is a attainable approach it may look, as made by the DIY builders. So the housing is your personal venture. What you should buy is a CD with the circuits, the outline, the software program, plots of the printed circuit boards, a drawing of the entrance plate + firm handle who makes the entrance plate for you (or design your personal). Printed circuit boards can be supplied to you, in addition to a few of the hard-to-get {hardware} elements such because the transformer. This checklist ends with the on-board software program that you simply get burned right into a micro processor which is a part of the ROETEST DIY venture. All of that for a worth that I believe is extraordinarily affordable.

The nice factor is, this tester is sort of non-compromise. It’s based mostly on a motherboard, after which merely one board for every perform. So you’ve a grid voltage board, a plate voltage board. and so forth. Any downside with a board is routinely lowered to that one board solely. Type of simple to restore and straightforward to service. Not fo neglect a FULL switchable relay matrix board. There’s a software program database which is up to date through Helmuth, helped by a rising group of customers. That database alone is fabulous. This product is actually ‘it’ when you find yourself a DIY.

Transient specs: Anode max, 606V 250mA. Heater 0…127V. Till 12,75V 5A. Till 127V 500mA
Take a look at decision 12Bit.

Extraordinarily versatile software program. Sorry, makes the AT1000 software program look sort of pale. It even permits you to write batches of assessments your self. So not only one ‘take a look at’ but in addition mixtures of assessments which might be began by you with only one command. I have never tried it, however in all probability you’ll be able to embody batches in different batches, and you may turn into very artistic. There are frequently new variations updates. There has all the time been a comparatively good upwards compatibility of older model {hardware} with newer software program. That is additionally documented on Helmut’s web site, which at this second is primarily in German. (Some elements are in English and Italian)

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SOFIA TUBE TESTER BY AUDIOMATICA, ITALY

This was the primary commercially out there PC aided tube tester, and it was and nonetheless is an excellent machine. The benefit lies in it’s extremely excessive working voltages and currents, mixed with 16 bit decision. There is no such thing as a different tester that may do 700V at 250mA not even outdated analog tester, I have no idea of 1. The drawback is, there is no such thing as a help of any type. Solely factor is, you’ll be able to ship it in for restore, they usually can attempt to repair it so long as they’ve elements for it. You’ll want to run it below DOS, and the schematics they don’t give to product homeowners. That is accepted for working manufacturing, however for a discontinued product, I miss the purpose of this. Actually not supporting outdated clients with this, personally this generates very unfavourable emotions with me. After all that is solely my private view. So earlier than I purchase a brand new product from this firm, I believe additionally of the day the place will probably be discontinued, and I get caught with out schematics.

This tester was made for DOS solely. It won’t work good below home windows, because it wants actual time entry to the RS232 and LPT1 port, and never the manipulated ports as in Home windows variations. A DOS emulator answer exist, but it surely works not totally dependable.

What’s it value? Exhausting to say. Faulty ones have been noticed, and the D/A and A/D converters do not get any higher in the event that they age. So the one you purchase many be tremendous, or simply as nicely not. Take care before you purchase one. Repairing a Sofia will probably be not simple.

What is sweet and unhealthy about it:

+++ Prime class software program. Curves are skilled wanting. Not these ‘Microsoft’ curves of the Amplitrex.
++ Wonderful tube curves by default. Additionally actual pentode curves, Extremely Linear curves with programmable suggestions share. So known as ‘specialists’ that design tube testers, ought to open their eyes, and look out on this planet, what issues already exists. Sorry for saying this, but it surely needs to be mentioned.
+ Curves and all tube knowledge in a single take a look at, Excessive digital decision, big selection
+ Good graphics. It’s superb what DOS can do. To me it appears and works the identical as home windows.
+ Pace! It’s amazingly quicker than the Amplitrex. It appears to make use of a second microprocessor for the A/D conversion.
+ Genius matching software program. Made by clever folks, who did their homework.
+ On-screen monitor for tube burn in
+ It may well merely do extra issues than the Amplitrex.
– DOS solely
– They’re off calibration after a very long time, however error is minimal.
– Tube connections have to be performed with plugs.
– Probably faulty after brief circuit
– Manufacturing unit help is unusual.
Grid voltage is measured improper for Instantly Heated Tubes. Half of the filament voltage is added to the grid, and it was not compensated within the software program. (Although this may have been very simple to do)

Conclusion: Sofia is a laboratory instrument for knowledgeable engineers solely. You’ll want to set up it below DOS, however this will get rewarded by superior velocity, and delightful software program performance. It’s not very nicely brief circuit protected, and fool operation safety fails utterly. {Hardware} points I’ve seen nearly none, solely inadequate cooling of the fly again diode within the heater energy provide regulator, and unprofessional mounting of the AC to DC rectifier (the one which feeds the entire tester). This brief checklist ends already ends all issues I find out about ever since 1995. So, a completely good end result. The tester damages simply by errors. Take into account, if the tester is broken, possibilities on restore are good. I can attempt for you. Extraordinarily unfavourable is for me the problem with the grid voltage error. It can’t have 5 stars due to this. Identical purpose applies for the Amplitrex too. A foolish mistake. Effectively it occurs.

Sofia Main Page

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u-Hint, pc managed.

This superb little tester presents one of the best worth for the cash. It’s bought as a equipment, together with nearly all digital elements, the PCB and the software program. Whereas I write this, the vendor presents this for 220 Euro, which could be very enticing. The u-trace does an entire, regular take a look at on the tube. So no tips with AC sign of no matter. All voltages are stabilized. Testing is in ‘pulse mode’, so every take a look at level it touched solely brief. Like this, the facility provide makes use of little RMS energy, the system stays small, and the facility transistors develop little warmth. That is actually a good suggestion, and a pleasant idea. After the curves are made, from the curves the tube parameters might be decided. Effectively, as seen earlier than within the SOFIA, so what was good there, is sweet right here additionally. I like this tester. The drawback stands out as the ‘equipment’ model after all, and no housing. So a number of works comes your approach, however honest sufficient it’s extremely low value, and a fantastic end result, to my opinion higher because the costly AT1000. The Dutch engineer positive is aware of his job! The entire PCB runs off a single DC voltage, for which you should purchase an outdated pocket book energy provide on Ebay. There is no such thing as a higher and cheaper method to get the DC energy you want. What you want to manage your self, is the tube sockets, or maybe you need it switches to attach the sockets. You too can join the tube with banana plugs, identical because the Sofia tester is doing. (This is just not a nasty approach, as you’ll be able to simply measure voltage and present that approach with further meters).

I need to write extra about it, when time permits, and likewise evaluate it with another digital testers I do know.

Here is a link to the manufacturer

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After all of the experiments with different firms’ tube testers, and all the time having the identical wrestle in opposition to measurement errors, and limitations in plate voltage, plate present and filament present, and no matter extra…… I got here up with this concept. The start is a precision regulated 550 Volts, 180 Watt energy provide from Fluke. Then the filament voltage, and grid voltages comes from Agilent precision energy provides. Add the required devices to measure all you want to know, and there you’re: A precision tube tester. So now I can measure the grid present any approach I would like, and the whole lot else a standard engineer desires to know, aside from studying ‘Good tube’ of ‘Unhealthy tube’ on a meter. Transconductance might be measured most correct, as a result of all I have to do is transfer up and down the grid voltage 500mV. The distinction in plate present can be utilized to calculate the transconductance. Additionally plate impedance and acquire might be decided this fashion rapidly. Really that is the tube tester I take advantage of for all tubes that want a number of plate dissipation. Evidently this the perfect instrument to regenerate and burn in tubes additionally. The take a look at fixture can do Octal, AD1, UX4 and UX5 tubes. The opposite tubes go on the Russian L3-3 tester, and for a fast ‘good/unhealthy’ take a look at end result I take advantage of the Funke W19. The Agilent energy provides have a reminiscence so I can retailer 5 full settings. Happiness comes up when utilizing this.





Ranking:

The celebrities aren’t essentially many for a really difficult tester. They’re additionally for a non-fooling merchandise. So a tester with no errors, no foolish issues, and so forth will get extra stars. Additionally 5 stars might be given for a comparatively easy however honest tester, which is holding it is (easy however honest) promise. Whereas an costly, new tester with a number of errors, can by no means get even 4 stars, by the definition of ‘4 stars’.
Monkey product.
Some, or unreliable info, however higher than nothing.
Good tester, however might have shortcomings or bugs.
Good tester, maybe some minor factors that could be improved within the newer mannequin, however typically a really satisfying product.
Superb tester, an sincere product, with none shortcomings or issues of any type. And even higher as anticipated.


Precise Tube teste, Model 111

Exact Tube tester, Mannequin 111. Why pay 70$ for an EICO KIT when you’ll be able to have this higher one for 69,95$ utterly construct. Right here you’ll be able to see what a model identify is value.


Mullard Tube teste, Card Matic

Mullard Tube tester, Card Matic


Wow! You made it as much as right here. You have to be a critical tube aficionado.
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